Brad Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) I was wondering if there was any interest for a group build in 2017 for German, Japanese and Italian aircraft, ships and tanks use after the end of the war. Some examples are (but not limited too); Nationalist Chinese Ki-84, Ki-61 and Ki-43. Red Army of China Ki-43 and Ki-45 French Airforce Ki-21's, FW 190A and Ki-43 Indonesian People's Security Force Ki-43, Ki-48 Ki-79 and F1M Pete North Korean Ki-43, Ki-54 or Ki-36/55 Soviet Air Force Focke Wulf 190D Czech Air Force Heinkel 219, Heinkel 111, Avis S 99 and 92. Polish Air Force Focke Wulf 190F Japanese "Green Cross" surrender aircraft Syrian Air Force Fiat G 55 Egyptian Air Force Macchi 205 Syrian Army Panzer IV, Jagdpanzer IV and Stug III Finnish Army Stug III and Panzer IV Bulgarian Army Panzer IV and Panther French Army Panther Norwegian Panzer III and IV Swiss Hetzer (G13's) German Destroyers Z5 and 6 were transfered to the French, Z14, 15, 20 and 33 were transfered to the Soviet Baltic Fleet, with Z38 being used by the Royal Navy and Z39 was transferred to the USN. IJN destroyer Yukikaze was pressed into service with the Republic of China post war and U995, type VIIC/41 was used by Norway until 1965. I know there are quite a few missing, but it gives an idea as to how big the subject is. Participants as of 12/02. 1 - Brad 2 - Specky 3 - Sgt Squarehead 4 - Rob G 5 - Antoine 6 - CliffB 7 - Robert Stuart 8 - Prenton 9 - Ronan71 10 - Arniec 11 - Giorgio N 12 - whitestar12chris 13 - sleeperservice 14 - Basilisk 15 - trickyrich 16 - SAU 17 - Wez 18 - spaddad 19 - Dave Flemming 20 - Moggy 21 - Foxbat 22 - gingerbob 23 -corsairfoxfouruncle 24 - Valkyrie 25 - TEMPESTMK5 26 - modelling minion 27 - ernie Edited February 26, 2020 by Brad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think including evaluation aircraft would broaden the appeal. But I'd be interested pending some research... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think including evaluation aircraft would broaden the appeal. But I'd be interested pending some research... I think there were more than enough aircraft pressed into service with post war air forces without including things like Watson's Whizzers et al, to support a group build. I know it's a bit of an esoteric subject, but I'm happy to provide a list of aircraft available if required. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think there were more than enough aircraft pressed into service with post war air forces without including things like Watson's Whizzers et al, to support a group build. I know it's a bit of an esoteric subject, but I'm happy to provide a list of aircraft available if required. I think a list would be good. I like unusual stuff but have no idea where the evaluation/service line is for many of the post war users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specky Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'm always looking for excuses to build Me 262's, so would an Avia Turbina qualify? Built in Czechoslovakia, post-war, using parts, tools, jigs etc, captured by the Soviets as the Germans retreated Cheers Craig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 I'm always looking for excuses to build Me 262's, so would an Avia Turbina qualify? Built in Czechoslovakia, post-war, using parts, tools, jigs etc, captured by the Soviets as the Germans retreated Cheers Craig Absolutely, the S92's were in service until 1950ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 I think a list would be good. I like unusual stuff but have no idea where the evaluation/service line is for many of the post war users. Yeh it could be a bit of a grey line, but the only thing I'd exclude would be captured aircraft that were studied and tested for performance. As an example, things like American Messerschmitt 262's would be out, but Soviet Baltic Fleet Focke Wulf 190D's would be in as they reached unit level and my reference says they were flown until sometime during 1946. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 So no room for Syrian Pz.IVs or French Panthers in your blinkered little world then? Or how about the U-Boats that served on with several nations.....But no, it's all about bloody aeroplanes as usual, isn't it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 So no room for Syrian Pz.IVs or French Panthers in your blinkered little world then? Or how about the U-Boats that served on with several nations.....But no, it's all about bloody aeroplanes as usual, isn't it! Funny you mention that, my dad just said the same thing. Ok, I'm good with that too. Bulgarian Panzer IV's, Syrian Jagdpazer IV's, German Destroyers used by the French or even the IJN Yukikaze as she appeared in the service of the Republic of China. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Good on your dad.....Buy him a pint for me! Sorry for being a bit growly about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I was going to suggest broadening the GB to include tracky things. And floaty things. And whatever's left. Might make it more popular. I've always wanted to do a Syrian StuG III. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Was thinking "Axis again" when I saw your title, but I'd get a pleasant surprise when I opened the topic. So yes, I'm in. Just a question, as I'm not set on anything yet, does the Japanese aircraft from the armistice commission fill the bill for Axis aircraft that were used in the post war world? You know, all white, with green crosses? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I believe making the proposal more inclusive will attract more people to it, else I fear it will be a bit of a non starter. Armour and shipping as well is a very good idea. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 I like the idea Brad. I'd probably go for something 'softer' like an Ar.96 derivative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Was thinking "Axis again" when I saw your title, but I'd get a pleasant surprise when I opened the topic. So yes, I'm in. Just a question, as I'm not set on anything yet, does the Japanese aircraft from the armistice commission fill the bill for You know, all white, with green crosses? Ah yeh I reckon it does. Right on the border line though, but it would be hard to make just a group build for the armistice air force. I think the only ones flown to any extent were the Tabby's and Betty's, but there are several other options if someone is so inclined to build one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How much of an encore are you thinking? Would a development be acceptable, for example an HA-1112-M1L Buchón (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano_Aviaci%C3%B3n_HA-1112#HA-1112-M1L ) ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 How much of an encore are you thinking? Would a development be acceptable, for example an HA-1112-M1L Buchón (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispano_Aviaci%C3%B3n_HA-1112#HA-1112-M1L ) ? Yep Buchons are sweet, as are Avia S 99/199's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Updated the OP to reflect an include tanks and ships with some more examples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Ah yeh I reckon it does. Right on the border line though, but it would be hard to make just a group build for the armistice air force. I think the only ones flown to any extent were the Tabby's and Betty's, but there are several other options if someone is so inclined to build one. Yes! I did take the time needed to weight your definition before posting. And it fit. But I'll understand your decision if you let those green cross birds aside, as borderline they truly are! Don't know how it came this idea crossed my mind while reading your post, maybe because of some of the lattest hasegawa releases? And there's no need to have one of those two specific boxes. Just read this article, make your choice, buy the kit, build it, paint the green crosses, mask them (Easy!), and it's done! Some ideas, taken from the linky above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 How about the best looking warship the Americans have ever had: USS Prinz Eugen!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoine Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 A few additions: Nationalist Chinese Ki-84, Ki-61 and Ki-43, P1Y, Ki-51 Red Army of China Ki-43 and Ki-45, Ki-84 French Airforce & Aéronavale Ki-21's, FW 190A and Ki-43, E8N, A6M-2N, Ju 88, Ju 188 Indonesian People's Security Force Ki-43, Ki-48 Ki-79 and F1M Pete North Korean Ki-43, Ki-54 or Ki-36/55 Soviet Air Force Focke Wulf 190D Czech Air Force Heinkel 219, Heinkel 111, Avis S 99 and 92. Polish Air Force Focke Wulf 190F Japanese "Green Cross" surrender aircraft Syrian Air Force Fiat G 55 Egyptian Air Force Macchi 205 Syrian Army Panzer IV, Jagdpanzer IV and Stug III Finnish Army Stug III and Panzer IV Bulgarian Army Panzer IV and Panther French Army Panther, Pz IV Norwegian Panzer III and IV Swiss Hetzer (G13's) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Stuart Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Brad, You might want to start making a list of suspects supporters for this GB, I think you are nearly half-way to your 30 names for the vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 How about the best looking warship the Americans have ever had: USS Prinz Eugen!? That's a bit of a border line one that I'd say doesn't really fit as it was only really examined and tested, before being allocated as a target. The US didn't even want her, they just didn't want the Russians getting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 A few additions: I don't know of a French E8N Dave, the only one I was aware of are the Thai one(s), but I'd like to see a picture of a French one. Also, the Red Amry Ki 84 picture is a proven fake. You can also add the Willow, the A6M5 and A6M2-K to the Nationalist Chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 (edited) Brad, You might want to start making a list of suspects supporters for this GB, I think you are nearly half-way to your 30 names for the vote Not a bad start. 1 - Brad 2 - Specky 3 - Sgt Squarehead 4 - Rob G 5 - Antoine 6 - CliffB 7 - Robert Stuart 8 - Prenton 9 - Ronan71 10 - Arniec 11 - Giorgio N 12 - whitestar12chris 13 - sleeperservice 14 - Basilisk 15 - trickyrich 16 - SAU 17 - Wez Edited February 6, 2016 by Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now