Hunter Rose Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Awesome sculpting.. Looks like most men ... Sullen .. Thanks HOUSTON! Some of us are just misunderstood Question for you: How do you clean up the burrs and tooling marks without damaging the details? Is it like Miliput or traditional clay where you can use water to smooth things? Will So far I've just been using my finger and some rake tools, when it comes to the final smoothing, with polymer clay you can use rubbing alcohol/surgical spirit and brush it over with a soft brush and it smooths over all tool marks and finger prints, water doesn't affect it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Blimey - this is quite a masterpiece and something quite different from the norm total maximum credit to you and your work so far quite amazing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Blimey - this is quite a masterpiece and something quite different from the norm total maximum credit to you and your work so far quite amazing Thanks dude, really appreciate the compliment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 8, 2016 Author Share Posted March 8, 2016 Had a chance to grab my sculpt tools today and this is what I've done! I started by neatening up the eyes and working the surrounding face atructure a little.  20160308_131527 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160308_132610 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Then i had a crack at an ear! And it was much less frustrating than the eyes (surprisingly) Started with an oval wedge, positioned it so it was tilted back slightly on the jaw line, with top level with brow and bottom just shy of nose level. Then smoothed it in and using some reference photo calved out the detail with my ball styles tools.  20160308_133039 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160308_133138 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160308_133335 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160308_133518 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160308_134407 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  So so happy with todays session, i love the last photo, he actually is starting to look human now!! Will neaten it up and copy it on the other side, which will be fun! Thanks for looking, more soon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 More ear work, carved out the ear more and worked the shape a bit more uising a reference photo.  20160308_134513 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160309_132554 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Shaped out the other ear roughly but when positioned i discovered the jaw line on that side fell way short of the other side so i built it but with more clay before repositioning.  20160309_133619 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160309_133911 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160309_134929 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160309_135044 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Tomorrow I'll work on getting it looking like the other. Thanks for looking, more soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Is the third pic Vincent Van Gogh? Hehehehe Edited March 9, 2016 by Nicodemus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Ha! Actually i think hes starting to look a bit like Yul Brynner! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicodemus Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Ha! Actually i think hes starting to look a bit like Yul Brynner! Indeed he is! Perhaps the gunslinger from "Westworld" could be a future sculpt?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Now that would be cool! Hmm food for thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 Got the other ear sorted, roughed in the detail with a ball stylus then used a scalpel to thin it down and match the shape of the other one trimming where needed. And just for the hell of it gave him a simple collar.  20160310_134734 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160311_132426 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160311_134554 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160311_134629 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Next up I'll neaten it up, tweak here and there and make a start on his hair, not going to leave him a chrome dome Thanks for looking, more soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Vale Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 Should he have a "helmet cap"? I don't know what they're called, but the thin layer over the head worn inside the NASA suits. Might get you out of the need for hair altogether. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 I was going to do that (and for that very reason!) but I really want to have a go at it. Im going to give him either a rough and ready 70's do or a classic 50's sci fi cut a la Dan Dare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 14, 2016 Author Share Posted March 14, 2016 We have eyebrows!  20160314_134914 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160314_134927 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Next up I'll start on his hair do Thanks for looking, more soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Hmm think he lost a little anger with my eyebrow placement, so i did a little surgery today. I scalpeled into his brows from the nose creases 1/3 of the way and then pushed them towards the eye more.  20160315_130902 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160315_130939 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160315_131023 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160315_131628 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Still need to lower the right a little more, and maybe shorten them both slightly. Thanks for looking, more soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Had a chance to sculpt a bit today, so I've tweaked the scowl a little more and made a start on his hair. Rolled some polymer clay very thin and cut the side burn shapes with a scalpel and built up and smoothed over a basic crew cut base. From here I'll use tapered rolls of clay to give him a neat side parting which i will then rough up and give some hair texture with the tools.  20160316_133226 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160316_133232 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160316_133252 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160316_134812 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  So next up more hair work and I'll start thinking about his helmet. Thanks for looking, more soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 17, 2016 Author Share Posted March 17, 2016 Worked on the hair some more today, im basically laying down chunky locks which I'll refine later.  20160316_135001 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160317_133940 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Then came helmet frustration! I bought a round clear bauble which turned out to be too small, and after wanting a low egg shaped visor instead i bought an egg which was too large, so im expecting to find Goldilocks at home!  20160317_134004 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160317_134013 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  So the hair work will continue and I'll grab a slightly smaller clear egg, that was a 100mm one so now im thinking 80mm is the way to go. Thanks for looking, more soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 Just a little update, think the main work on the locks is done, tomorrow I'll start working it with my tools to getvthe hair texture and add more fine details  20160317_134918 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160318_135048 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160318_135100 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Also just did a quick concept sketch of the helmet i have in mind, the tube shaped rim on the inside edge the arrows are pointing at is going to be a white tube light.  20160318_100214 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  Clear helmet and a light inside because of course with all the trouble im going to sculpting his head i want to make sure is visible to the max! Thanks for looking, more soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Vale Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 The hair shape looks good. I'd been sort of imagining this sculpt as huge but I realised suddenly that his head can't be much bigger than Judge Anderson's head, which makes all the neat work even more impressive. For the helmet, have you thought about plunge moulding one to get the corners and straight edges of the original? I think that showing more of the head is a good move, but I don't know if the round helmet looks as cool and aggressive as the squared off one. You might be able to find some suitable blister pack as well, I'll keep an eye out Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 19, 2016 Author Share Posted March 19, 2016 Thanks for the compliment Will, yeah all the zoomed in photos can make it hard to tell! I've never done plunge molding so hadn't really thought about it, but I hear what your saying about it being more aggressive. Think I'll stick with the shape (mainly because I've bought another damn egg that im.praying is the right size now!) but I'll tweak the design, lile morecdetail anf some angled panels on the helmet itself. Hmm all food for thought, appreciate the input mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 20, 2016 Author Share Posted March 20, 2016 Actually you know what screw it, I've got clear eggs coming out of my ears but Im just not feeling it. Think I will have a crack at doing a plunge mold for a helmet with a more angled front like Will suggested, looked up some info on how to go about it and now I'll just need to carve a shape. But for now I've done some work detailing the hair more with my scalpel and other tools.  20160320_145715 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160320_145724 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160320_151932 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160320_151946 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160321_080731 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  It still looks a bit rough, I'll brush some surgical spirit over it after I've finished to neaten it up. I'll also use a stiff brush to stipple over and tie it together with a extra detail. Thanks for looking, more soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Vale Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 Looking good on the sides and back, I think the sideburns possibly have the grain running the wrong way? On my head (other heads are available, YMMV) the hair runs down almost vertical past the ear. So where you have it blend from diagonal to horizontal I think it should blend from the same diagonal at the same point, but to vertical? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 This is a fantastic build and am hooked,but I gotta say I would probably have gone with a skull cap rather than the hair.it would be a nightmare having ones hair floating around when in zero g. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/20/2016 at 9:30 PM, Will Vale said: Looking good on the sides and back, I think the sideburns possibly have the grain running the wrong way? On my head (other heads are available, YMMV) the hair runs down almost vertical past the ear. So where you have it blend from diagonal to horizontal I think it should blend from the same diagonal at the same point, but to vertical? Will Jinkeys! Funny thing is just checked and so do mine, thats what happens when you get carried away with tools before checking your reference material! I'll smooth over and re work the detail on the burns when I start the stippling later. Oh and FYI this is a very quick sketch of the sort of thing I'm wanting to do with the new helmet, angles on the visor & it will be more covered at the back and I think a couple of lights mounted at the base of the collar on each side. I'll still have the tube light on the inside, though I'm torn between white to light it up as is, or red/green for a more sinister look.  20160321_131423 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  On 3/20/2016 at 9:43 PM, fatalbert said: This is a fantastic build and am hooked,but I gotta say I would probably have gone with a skull cap rather than the hair.it would be a nightmare having ones hair floating around when in zero g. Thanks fatalbert really appreciate the interest! Yeah the original plan was to do a skull cap (and at the time I was relieved to not have to do ears or hair) but was enjoying the sculpting so much and its been going so well I decided I want to go the whole hog despite knowing it wouldn't be practical at all on a real suit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 21, 2016 Author Share Posted March 21, 2016 Right sorted out the sideburns and got the hair flowing the rihht way! And ive added more fine texture to the big locks i laid down, and using a toothbrush i brushed and stippled here and there for some finer detail.  20160321_131436 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160321_133213 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160321_133235 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160321_133915 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  So next I'll be smoothing the hair and rest of the head with some surgical spirit, and then i think im calling the head done. Its hit a point where i think its as good as i can get it so im stopping before i balls it up! Thanks for looking, more soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Rose Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Okay just a little update, brushed over some surgical spirit which got rid off all the little bits in the hair and the head is officially done.  20160322_133910 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  20160322_133919 by Nick Frost, on Flickr  I know its not 100% perfect but it's more than good enough for me. So blown away by what I've accomplished, i really don't mean that to sound big headed, its just i really wasn't as confident as i may have seemed when starting this project. I'm very grateful for the interest and comments its had, really helped me to knuckle down and persevere. Now its time to bake it to lock in the detail while i work on the torso and helmet collar, im praying the bake goes well checking out lots of info on it to make sure i don't screw it up. Thanks for looking, more soon 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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