Learstang Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 In the opinion of the cognoscenti (those who know) on this site, what is the best Me-210 in 1/72nd scale, and what is the best Me-410 in 1/72nd scale? I might as well expand that to include 1/48th and 1/32nd scale whilst I'm at it. Thank you in advance for any help that you can provide! Best Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
czaralko Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I think the best Me-410 in 1/72 is the Eduard release of the Finemolds plastic. I believe is out of production but the Finemolds kit is still around. In 1/48 probably the Meng kit. I don't know much about the 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Thank you! That's a good start. Best Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The Finemolds kit is good but not without it's problems. Most notably the engine nacelles are too big and are a poor fit to the wings, there are ways to get round the nacelle size issue that require surgery and there used to be an aftermarket replacement set by a German firm IIRC but I think it is long OOP. The Italeri 210 and 410 are buildable (and available) but require a lot of work to get to the same level of detail as the FM kit. I think that covers 1/72 (although my memory is trying to tell me that Bilek might have covered them in 1/72 too IIRC). Duncan B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm sure I asked a similar question not all that long ago. Duncan B's response is the current wisdom. FWIW the Fine Mold's (and Eduard's) nacelles ARE wider than the Italeri's and the Italeri nacelles DO match the plans in the Mushroom Model book. Etch for the Italeri kit is still available (don't buy all of it; I still want some). Fine Molds etch disappeared off my radar months ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Bilek did cover both types but their kits are just reboxes of the Italeri moulds 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad edd Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I have the Fine Molds as well as the Italeri, so far i have only built two of the latter. Here is m try : http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/11035-coltul-cu-zerstorere/page__st__20 FM seems to have problems not only with the sheer size of the engines and propellers / spinners but also with their position in relation to the wing. The engines should be aligned to the wing, on the FM kit they are aligned to the ground and that is difficult to correct, EVEN with the resin set. Also the fit is not what one would expect from a Fine Moulds kit. The Italeri can be built into a very nice model but the main wheels and propellers must be replaced . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 We still lack any model of the early Me210, or even any resin conversion. Is it available in vacform anwhere? Airmodel? I understood that the Italeri Me410/210 were Zvezda moulds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bil Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) As far as I am aware, the following Me210/410 kits have been sold in the UK, others may know more....Me210sLF Model: resin Me210A-0/A-1: only short fuselage 210 kitBilek: injected plastic, same basic moldings in each variant Me210A-1: long fuselage (Kit No.932) Me210A-1: "Nightfighter"; contains etched Fug200; mythical variant? (Kit No.937) Me210B-1; recce model, two underwing auxiliary tanks, 2 built (Kit No.935)Italeri: injected plastic (NOT the same moldings as the Bilek Me210 family) Me210A-1; (Kit No.077)Revell: injected plastic,same moldings as Italeri Kit No.077 Me210A-1: (Kit No.04606-0389)Me410sFrog: injected plastic, old and inaccurate Me410 (Kit No.F178)Eduard: injected plastic, Me410 "Zerstorer"; same moldings as FineMold series (Kit No.7028)FineMolds: injected plastic, same basic moldings in each variant, oversized engine nacelles, tailplanes not in alignment Me410A-1 "I/KG51": (Kit No.FP12) Me410A-1 "II/KG26" (Kit No.FP11) Me410A-3 "2/FAG122" (Kit No.FP13) Me410B-1 "14/KG2" (Kit No.FP14) Me410B-1/U2/R4 (Kit No.FL9) Me410B-1/U4 (Kit No.FL10)Italeri: injected plastic, same fuselage moldings as their Me210 kit paired with new wings Me410: Lindberg: injected plastic, old and VERY inaccurate Me410: (Kit No.440)Matchbox: injected plastic, old with little detail but reasonably accurate Me410(Kit No.PK-113)Revell: injected plastic, same moldings as Frog Kit No.4332-0389 Me410A-2/U4: Edited January 28, 2016 by bil 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm still hoping we might see a '410 from Airfix, or even Revell. The example at Cosford is there for all to see and measure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Thank you gentlemen for your responses! I built an Me-410 many years (decades) ago, either a Frog or even (probably) a Lindberg kit. Bad edd - beautiful models; is that Hungarian example an Me-210? Bil, nice listing, thank you for that! I've already ordered the Italeri Me-410 so I'll see how that looks. Best Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I think nobody told yet a single word on canopy, which (accordingly to my experience) is too large (exactly: too high) in Italeri kit. Can anybody confirm this error? Regards J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad edd Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I cannot I think nobody told yet a single word on canopy, which (accordingly to my experience) is too large (exactly: too high) in Italeri kit. Can anybody confirm this error? Regards J-W I haven't noticed, but i remember it was incredibly hard to fit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksc Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I have the Fine Molds as well as the Italeri, so far i have only built two of the latter. Here is m try : The Italeri can be built into a very nice model but the main wheels and propellers must be replaced . Very nice indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'd completely forgotten about the Matchbox kit! The Finemolds kit does require a bit of work to build, even when building OOB, due to the fit of the engines to wings and I also had problems with the fuselage halves being mismatched. The canopy parts were also difficult to fit together onto the fuselage. I explained some of the failings when I posted my RFI here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234969606-me-410-b-1u4-beware-the-bfg-stab-iizg26-1944/?hl=me410 Duncan B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad edd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I liked the Matchbox 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad edd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I'd compleely forgotten about the Matchbox kit! The Finemolds kit does require a bit of work to build, even when building OOB, due to the fit of the engines to wings and I also had problems with the fuselage halves being mismatched. The canopy parts were also difficult to fit together onto the fuselage. I explained some of the failings when I posted my RFI here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234969606-me-410-b-1u4-beware-the-bfg-stab-iizg26-1944/?hl=me410 Duncan B OMG, i remember that build, FANTASTIC ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Lovely jobs on both your Hornisses, bad edd and Duncan! It looks like I'll be opting for the Italeri Me-410 (and -210) as I want an easy build for these. I might pick up the Fine Molds (sic) kit anyway, though, just to compare them. Best Regards, Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan B Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Having built many Finemolds Bf109s I was taken aback by how poor fitting my FM Me410 was, an easy build it was not. I wonder how easy it would be to transplant the Matchbox or Italeri (although I know they aren't the most detailed) nacelles onto the FM kit? Duncan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad edd Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) Hi Jason, Thank you for your kind words. You can take a look at my build log for the Italeri kits, it's by no means a benchmark, but you can at least see what's you can expect when building it. http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/11035-coltul-cu-zerstorere/ Regards,Ed PS . I have tried matching the Italeri engines on the FM. It's almost impossible since you can easily hide the entire italeri engine inside FM's one. The difference is just too big. Perhaps the Matchbox ones... Here is the FM engine next to Italeri. http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=5592 Edited January 28, 2016 by bad edd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wm Blecky Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 On 1/27/2016 at 1:31 AM, Giorgio N said: Bilek did cover both types but their kits are just reboxes of the Italeri moulds A bit of a "late" reply, but the Bilek kit is not a rebox of the Italeri kit. It is it's own.  Bilek kit here and Italeri kit here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen Barett Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 When I came across this thread http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/180322-me410-a-1-to-the-finish-11710/ I gave up the idea of building an Me 410 (yes, 1/48th, but stll intimidating). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I think you may be distracted too much by the Luftwaffe Helferinnen sprinkled over the build article   2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giampiero Piva Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Maybe it can be useful. Cheers Giampiero  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72modeler Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 A while back we had a long, spirited, and informative discussion on the 1/72 Fine Molds Me-410 kit that included the corrections needed to make the kit more accurate, and IIRC, the discussion included comparisons of the various kits. You can look for it. I was one of the posters; if I can find the doggoned thing, I will post it here. We sure could use a better kit- it is one nasty-looking little spud! If you go to the 'net and do a search for 1/72 Fine Molds Me-410 Britmodeller, you can see all the forum discussion topics, WIP's, and RFI's- there are several. Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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