Gundylunch Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 On 5/5/2020 at 7:31 PM, Spec7 said: Yes sorry it was north weald fighter meet, must have been 1990 as i found a you tube video of the 1991 display there and it landed, sure it didn't when i saw it. Picture of said Shackleton at North Weald 1991 - my pic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bar side Posted May 7, 2020 Share Posted May 7, 2020 I am sure that the BBMF Lancaster and and an AEW Shack flew together at either a Mildenhall or Duxford show I went to on the 80s. Definitely saw Shacks flying in the late 70s / 80s airshows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 7, 2020 Author Share Posted May 7, 2020 1 hour ago, bar side said: I am sure that the BBMF Lancaster and and an AEW Shack flew together at either a Mildenhall or Duxford show I went to on the 80s. Definitely saw Shacks flying in the late 70s / 80s airshows I think I’m right in saying in days gone by BBMF Lancaster pilots were drawn from the Shackleton pool - for obvious reasons. 3 hours ago, Gundylunch said: Picture of said Shackleton at North Weald 1991 - my pic That’ll be WR963 - now residing at Coventry and a return to flight project. Great shot by the way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 10, 2020 Author Share Posted May 10, 2020 Still plodding on with the making of interior parts... The basics of the pilots' seats is now done (plasticcard and Milliput) - still some additional details to add such as the trim wheels etc. but you get the idea: Untitled by Thomas Probert, on Flickr I've also made the two control columns - I used the part in the HK Lancaster kit as a guide as they're more or less identical in the Shackleton MR2. An old paperclip, some Tamiya tape and various bits of Evergreen was the order of the day here: Untitled by Thomas Probert, on Flickr Hopefully I'll get a splash of paint on these later. Regards to all, Tom 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Were they the same left and right or mirrored? Most controls that I've seen are mirrored for the right seat, so the little button on the left angle would be on the right. Not that it's going to be too visible, but thought I'd check! Ian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 21 hours ago, limeypilot said: Were they the same left and right or mirrored? Most controls that I've seen are mirrored for the right seat, so the little button on the left angle would be on the right. Not that it's going to be too visible, but thought I'd check! Ian I'd not considered that to be honest, Ian - I'd just seen a single control column and yoke and taken it from there. Too late now anyway as I painted them last night, and as you say not much will be seen. I won't tell anyone if you don't... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianMF Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 For a man that hates doing cockpits you are doing a lovely job! The seats with one arm remind me of those Chinese waving cats Regards, Adrian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 22 hours ago, AdrianMF said: For a man that hates doing cockpits you are doing a lovely job! The seats with one arm remind me of those Chinese waving cats Regards, Adrian Ha! I don't know whether to laugh or be offended by that, Adrian!! I can clearly see the resemblance though..! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 The wheels are mirrored, seems anti-intuitive, but it is British! Shackleton WL795 pilots panel by James Thomas, on Flickr Shackleton WL795 co-pilots panel by James Thomas, on Flickr Superb work there though Tom, must be huge! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 God, that must gave been confusing as anything for the pilots - I sincerely hope the buttons didn’t do anything too drastic, because the potential for jettisoning the entire bomb load when you meant to re-light the tea boiler is huge... 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71chally Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: I sincerely hope the buttons didn’t do anything too drastic, because the potential for jettisoning the entire bomb load when you meant to re-light the tea boiler is huge... On Phase III MR.2s and 3s, nothing too drastic, just the nuclear (N) release button... 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Ah, British engineering! Is it true that at engineering schools around the world, they have a separate department for British Engineering? Regards, Jason P.S. Actually, I love the Shackleton, and the quirks of British aircraft engineering are a source of constant interest (and surprise). 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Learstang said: Ah, British engineering! Is it true that at engineering schools around the world, they have a separate department for British Engineering? Regards, Jason P.S. Actually, I love the Shackleton, and the quirks of British aircraft engineering are a source of constant interest (and surprise). Why make things easy when you can do it the British way, it is after all, a national obsession to confuse the hell out of the rest of the World! Rule Britannia everyone 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 It's pretty much standard as far as I know. The reason being that the "inner" hand will work the throttles etc while the "outer" hand is used to fly the aircraft/transmit on the radio etc. It really doesn't cause any confusion because you only have the one hand on the yoke - the "outer" one! Ian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonners Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 46 minutes ago, limeypilot said: the "inner" hand will work the throttles etc while the "outer" hand is used to fly the aircraft/transmit on the radio etc. Trying that in my world would completely blow my mind. Both hands, both feet, blind faith, prayer... On 5/10/2020 at 10:16 AM, tomprobert said: An old paperclip, some Tamiya tape and various bits of Evergreen was the order of the day here Brilliant. Proper modelling there, Tom! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 3 hours ago, limeypilot said: It's pretty much standard as far as I know. The reason being that the "inner" hand will work the throttles etc while the "outer" hand is used to fly the aircraft/transmit on the radio etc. It really doesn't cause any confusion because you only have the one hand on the yoke - the "outer" one! Ian I’m so used to using all 4 limbs to fly that I tend to forget about not having duplicated collectives / throttles for the LHS. Still plenty of scope for a fleeting visit by Flt Lt Cock-Up, though 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marklo Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Tony C said: Is it true that at engineering schools around the world, they have a separate department for British Engineering? I don’t know about that but Alexi Sayle does a hilarious routine about it. Now if only I could find the clip. Edited May 12, 2020 by Marklo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Learstang said: Ah, British engineering! Is it true that at engineering schools around the world, they have a separate department for British Engineering? Regards, Jason P.S. Actually, I love the Shackleton, and the quirks of British aircraft engineering are a source of constant interest (and surprise). I keep telling the missus it’s inches, not centimetres 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Too right! And it's pounds, not kilograms, just as the Lord intended! Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 12, 2020 Author Share Posted May 12, 2020 Good stuff chaps - love the banter I've now painted the seats and control columns: Untitled by Thomas Probert, on Flickr Seatbelts are some left over etch from something or other - not sure what but they're 1/32nd scale and do the job. This gives some idea of the position in the cockpit: Untitled by Thomas Probert, on Flickr And now the pilots' seats and control columns go into the box of tricks with the other interior parts already made ready for proper installation when the time comes: Untitled by Thomas Probert, on Flickr Only the throttle boxes and overhead panel to go now. Happy days. Night all, Tom 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted May 12, 2020 Share Posted May 12, 2020 Brilliant work as always, Thomas! We'll try and keep the banter reasonably intelligible, and not stray too far into Monty Python territory - no 'monkeys on the roof dropping tenpennies into the custard' and all that. Best Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 13, 2020 Author Share Posted May 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Learstang said: Brilliant work as always, Thomas! We'll try and keep the banter reasonably intelligible, and not stray too far into Monty Python territory - no 'monkeys on the roof dropping tenpennies into the custard' and all that. Best Regards, Jason Glad to hear it - I am teacher as you know, so I will not hesitate to discipline those who become a little rowdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Attention in class. Yes you there at the back. Otherwise Mr Probert will make you build Starfix ‘Spitfires’ without filler and files! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted May 13, 2020 Share Posted May 13, 2020 Starfix Spitfires - about as far from this brilliant work as you could possibly get! Regards, Jason 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted May 14, 2020 Author Share Posted May 14, 2020 On 5/13/2020 at 1:43 PM, Max Headroom said: Attention in class. Yes you there at the back. Otherwise Mr Probert will make you build Starfix ‘Spitfires’ without filler and files! Sweet Jesus, man! I may be towards the stricter end of the teacher-scale, but that’s just inhumane! In other news... I’ve got all of the cockpit interior installed this evening and thankfully it’s all fitted like a glove. Too dark for pictures tonight, but hopefully I’ll get some decent shots over the weekend. Stay safe all, Tom 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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