JimmyZ Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 (edited) Hello all. This will be my contribution to this group build. Republic P-47D-15-RA Thunderbolt of 58FG, 69FS serial 42-23224 - "A23" in 1944, flown by Lt. Herbert B. Emrich The kit: The subject: I'm planning to do it OOB at this point. Cheers Jimmy Edited January 14, 2016 by JimmyZ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hi Jimmy, welcome aboard. I haven't seen a 1/72nd Tamiya P-47 yet and from the spruces it looks to be a very nice looking model, should build up into something very nice! Well good luck with the build, hope it's a trouble free and pleasant one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zegeye Posted January 7, 2016 Share Posted January 7, 2016 Pacific one... I like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Hi Jimmy, welcome aboard. I haven't seen a 1/72nd Tamiya P-47 yet and from the spruces it looks to be a very nice looking model, should build up into something very nice! Well good luck with the build, hope it's a trouble free and pleasant one. Thanks! Yes they look nice indeed, the cleanest ones I have seen yet with zero flash (keeping in mind I have only built a total of 10 kits at this point). Pacific one... I like it. Yes indeed, which brings about my first problem, the kit doesn't include the PTO style (P-38 style?) drop tanks featured in the photo...so I will have to scour my stash to see if any kits contain these, which I doubt, or steal it of my built P-38. I have no idea if the paper drop tanks included in this kit was used in this theater at any time...so I guess a little research is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zegeye Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Tamiya Thunderbolts are the best at the market now. And the best in this scale. JimmyZ... the paper drop tanks weren't used at Pacific. I have proper drop tanks in my Thunderbolt model which is P-47 N from SWORD company and I will probably not use them. But I'm in Poland . Maybe u can use oder configuration. Bombs and bazooka rockets will be great choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 8, 2016 Author Share Posted January 8, 2016 Thanks anyway for the offer zegeye! In that case the paper drop tanks are out of the question. I'll see if I can find the big Pacific drop tanks, otherwise bombs and rockets it is! Jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 That is indeed a nice model. The drop tanks are originaly from the P-38. So, maybee if you have a P-38 in your stash, you could raid it for the tanks. These tanks were mainly used in the pacific. Cheers, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 13, 2016 Author Share Posted January 13, 2016 I realize this is kind of pathetic, but just to show that I have started with my build (even though I have not even cut anything off the sprue yet) I have started painting some of the cockpit pieces whilst still finishing up another build. I have also selected a color (Humbrol 91) I would use for the cockpit, after reading all the reference material provided here. My aim was to mix medium green with a darker green to get what I think should closely resemble Dull Dark Green when I found this color and realized it's exactly what I wanted. This is the best lighting I could achieve, but the photo doesn't show the color well at all. Hopefully I'll get fully started on this soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almac Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Jimmy the Revell P-47m has the drop tanks you're looking for. It's a excuse to buy another kit if you don't have it. Cheers Allan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 You made a start that's the main thing, the cockpit colour has raised a lot of questions on different builds. The colour you've used looks good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Jimmy the Revell P-47m has the drop tanks you're looking for. It's a excuse to buy another kit if you don't have it. Cheers Allan Pfftt like I need an excuse to buy another kit... (kidding off course) I think I'll do that, thanks Allan! PS is this the kit? https://www.scalemates.com/kits/176231-revell-03984-p-47m-thunderbolt Edited January 14, 2016 by JimmyZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almac Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Jimmy that is the one. There are a couple of different boxings with different decals but the plastic is the same I'm sure. Cheers Allan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 15, 2016 Author Share Posted January 15, 2016 I have made a little bit of progress last night. The floor, sidewalls, stick, seat, seat armor, pedals and instrument panel are all done and just need to be glued together. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Finally some more noticeble progress...step 1 of the instructions complete The tailwheel well paint looks a bit yellow, but that's just the lighting, it's ZC Yellow. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 very nicely done, that cockpit looks great, especially so seeing it's in 1/72nd scale, well done 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just a word of warning that I've said on many P-47 builds - don't use the rockets! A good general rule of thumb when modelling P-47's is never use the rockets, unless you can find pics of the subject or aircraft in the same squadron carrying the rockets, as they weren't used all that often. The brief info I've seen states that the P-47's of this air force (5th I think) were used as bomber escorts (so drop tanks like in your pic - or I've them use the smaller 75gal tanks). They were then use used for bombing and strafing missions, so I would use 500lb bombs on the wing racks for that. Someone has mentioned the larger drop tanks in the Revell P-47M, which is true and good because none of the ordnance in the P-47M kit were ever used on P-47M's! Last point, the Tamiya P-47's are by a massive amount the best P-47 kits in 1/72 ever made, you can convert the bubbletop into a D-30 or M with Quickboost parts, which is better than the bloated, short legged Revell kit. thanks Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almac Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Coming along nicely Jimmy. Cockpit looks good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 17, 2016 Author Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just a word of warning that I've said on many P-47 builds - don't use the rockets! A good general rule of thumb when modelling P-47's is never use the rockets, unless you can find pics of the subject or aircraft in the same squadron carrying the rockets, as they weren't used all that often. The brief info I've seen states that the P-47's of this air force (5th I think) were used as bomber escorts (so drop tanks like in your pic - or I've them use the smaller 75gal tanks). They were then use used for bombing and strafing missions, so I would use 500lb bombs on the wing racks for that. Someone has mentioned the larger drop tanks in the Revell P-47M, which is true and good because none of the ordnance in the P-47M kit were ever used on P-47M's! Last point, the Tamiya P-47's are by a massive amount the best P-47 kits in 1/72 ever made, you can convert the bubbletop into a D-30 or M with Quickboost parts, which is better than the bloated, short legged Revell kit. thanks Mike Thanks Mike, I appreciate the warning. If all goes along plan, I don't intend to use rockets or bombs, but only the drop tanks as in the photo I have in the first post. I'm sure the bombs were used, maybe even the rockets, but if I go with the photographic evidence of just the Lockheed drop tanks, I cannot go wrong, right? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) I've closed the fuselage, and while waiting for the glue to dry I started painting the engine bits. I should be able to spend a few hours tonight and make some more progress. Cheers Edited January 25, 2016 by JimmyZ 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfqweofekwpeweiop4 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thanks Mike, I appreciate the warning. If all goes along plan, I don't intend to use rockets or bombs, but only the drop tanks as in the photo I have in the first post. I'm sure the bombs were used, maybe even the rockets, but if I go with the photographic evidence of just the Lockheed drop tanks, I cannot go wrong, right? Cheers Certainly not, if a pic shows the subject carrying specific ordnance then no problems. That said, I can't see anyone complaining if you did use a pair of 500lb bombs, as I think that was very common.... thanks Mike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) I've started painting the engine. Feels like this is coming along quite slowly... Edited January 25, 2016 by JimmyZ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zegeye Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 It comes nicely. Good move with the engine wires, but you know that they should be doubled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zegeye Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Certainly not, if a pic shows the subject carrying specific ordnance then no problems. That said, I can't see anyone complaining if you did use a pair of 500lb bombs, as I think that was very common.... thanks Mike Here you have some pictures you can see a different ordnance the earlier and later Thunderbolt could use. My link is page 4, but all 6 pages of this album are beautiful. https://www.flickr.com/photos/37428606@N05/page4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyZ Posted January 22, 2016 Author Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hi Zegeye It comes nicely. Good move with the engine wires, but you know that they should be doubled Yes. I looked at pictures of a real P&W R-2800, and roughly followed that. Though this is just to represent the general idea. I won't be able to achieve complete accuracy, and this is where I decided to stop Here you have some pictures you can see a different ordnance the earlier and later Thunderbolt could use. My link is page 4, but all 6 pages of this album are beautiful. https://www.flickr.com/photos/37428606@N05/page4 That's a very nice album (clicks "bookmark this page"), love looking at these authentic WWII photographs. Thanks Zegeye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zegeye Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 Hi Zegeye Yes. I looked at pictures of a real P&W R-2800, and roughly followed that. Though this is just to represent the general idea. I won't be able to achieve complete accuracy, and this is where I decided to stop I fully understand. I live the wire in my T-bolt. I made such a doubled wires in my ZERO engine ones and know how many time it costs. This group built is to short for ...this. Especially I take part in the Made in Britain GB simultaneously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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