Harry Lime Posted January 6, 2016 Posted January 6, 2016 Afternoon All, I recently acquired the Aeroclub 1/72 De Havilland Venom FB1 and FB4 kits with the intention of building them as RAF machines from 249 (FB1) and 28 (FB4) Sqdns. I'm looking to see if anyone has some decent cockpit interior images so I can add some detail to the cockpit interiors? Anything you can provide me with would be gratefully received! Thanks in advance, Mark.
Don McIntyre Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 A quick Google Image Search produced a number of color cockpit photos. You may need to scroll around a bit to sort out the single seaters from the Twin seaters. https://www.google.com/search?q=de+havilland+venom+cockpit&client=tablet-android-google&prmd=isvn&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=cG75ut_9gULWaM%253A%252CF1wUx1ch2MiNcM%252C_%253BZhoRAzm9PJhzPM%253A%252CH8syB0zmyd6p9M%252C_%253BpZj0fgGVNPdlhM%253A%252CZSn_DfacgKDtGM%252C_%253BVAjXf5Lu68L7WM%253A%252Cg9U19WEFPxvpPM%252C_%253BVC5-aBYpSxh2dM%253A%252CH8syB0zmyd6p9M%252C_%253BZV14hQx8X49PKM%253A%252CN3FB-nDveXp-HM%252C_%253BQoM1wZtvtYhYpM%253A%252CbyoprDcneMkIaM%252C_%253Ba6sINNnpHtWloM%253A%252CuaTp9z2yiz7n3M%252C_%253BRy8nhQpva-8AKM%253A%252Cx4Oahcz4ZTb1yM%252C_%253BY1bsszfgaszTyM%253A%252C1wm0Hs924FRNNM%252C_&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiywruvspbKAhWD5yYKHW-sCnkQ7AkIGw&biw=600&bih=960&usg=__5h56z6H6NLFAQhU_1OaDjtiXdl8%3D 1
Harry Lime Posted January 7, 2016 Author Posted January 7, 2016 A quick Google Image Search produced a number of color cockpit photos. You may need to scroll around a bit to sort out the single seaters from the Twin seaters. Don, Thanks for your efforts but I should probably have mentioned in my original post that Google has been more of a hinderance than a help. Not being overly familiar with the type, I'm not aware of the differences, if any, between the RAF operated Venoms and the foreign operated ones. I'm therefore looking for specific images of the RAF FB1 and FB4 cockpits. Regards, Mark.
Selwyn Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Don, Thanks for your efforts but I should probably have mentioned in my original post that Google has been more of a hinderance than a help. Not being overly familiar with the type, I'm not aware of the differences, if any, between the RAF operated Venoms and the foreign operated ones. I'm therefore looking for specific images of the RAF FB1 and FB4 cockpits. Regards, Mark. With single seat venoms there probably would not be any differences. Changes are made for different radar or electronic fits and the Venom single seaters didnt have any electronics as such. some may have had a radio compass but that would be just a single panel, hardly noticable in1/72. The seats were standard, as at the time there was nobody except MB fitting seats to UK aircraft. Selwyn 1
viscount806x Posted January 7, 2016 Posted January 7, 2016 Don, Thanks for your efforts but I should probably have mentioned in my original post that Google has been more of a hinderance than a help. Not being overly familiar with the type, I'm not aware of the differences, if any, between the RAF operated Venoms and the foreign operated ones. I'm therefore looking for specific images of the RAF FB1 and FB4 cockpits. Regards, Mark. Mind you Mark, you'd be hard pushed to tell variants apart in 1/72 through a tiny canopy with everything inside more or less black. Nige B 2
Harry Lime Posted January 8, 2016 Author Posted January 8, 2016 With single seat venoms there probably would not be any differences. Changes are made for different radar or electronic fits and the Venom single seaters didnt have any electronics as such. some may have had a radio compass but that would be just a single panel, hardly noticable in1/72. The seats were standard, as at the time there was nobody except MB fitting seats to UK aircraft. Selwyn That would certainly make sense. The Aeroclub kits come with a rather nice MB seat each, I just want to add a bit more detail to the rest of the cockpit to set them off nicely. Mind you Mark, you'd be hard pushed to tell variants apart in 1/72 through a tiny canopy with everything inside more or less black. Nige B But, as is so often said in this hobby, I'll know it's in there!! Coming at this from a slightly different angle, would there be much, if any, difference between a Venom a Vampire cockpit I wonder? Could I use the Vampire refs I have as the basis for the Venom since they share so much genealogy? Mark.
Giorgio N Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 A google image search resulted in a number of pictures from an FB.4 that were originally in a thread on this same forum. They can't be seen anymore in the thread but can be seen through google. Check the first few on this page https://www.google.it/search?q=venom+fb+cockpit&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjv64bx55nKAhWHpnIKHWKRAdYQsAQIIg&biw=1366&bih=631#imgrc=_ 1
Selwyn Posted January 8, 2016 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) Have a look at the Vampire FB 5/9 pilots notes here: http://www.rafjever.org/vamp5pictures.htm Scroll down to part V and there are descriptive images of all the control panels. You cant get more accurate than the Air publications! This was very similar to the venom. I think you can buy venom pilots notes somewhere but i cant find a link. Selwyn Edited January 8, 2016 by Selwyn 1
BruceG Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Care! Most of the images in the Google link above are Swiss Venoms, which are totally different to their RAF Brethren. 1
Duncan B Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 I've got some photos of completed Lightnings if that's any help Mark DB 1
Don McIntyre Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Were the ejection seats in the Venom FB.1 Martin-Baker units? I'm currently plugging away at the Classic Airframes kit. My current plan is to paint the seat frame Black (Humbrol Coal Black) the seat pads in what amounts to Dark Earth (FS30118) and the belts Khaki. Am I on the right track?
viscount806x Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Were the ejection seats in the Venom FB.1 Martin-Baker units? I'm currently plugging away at the Classic Airframes kit. My current plan is to paint the seat frame Black (Humbrol Coal Black) the seat pads in what amounts to Dark Earth (FS30118) and the belts Khaki. Am I on the right track? According to David Watkins ('Venom The Complete History') both single seaters had Martin Baker seats, the 1F in the FB1 and the 2F in the FB4. I think you are close with the colours but would the belts have been blue maybe? Nige B
Don McIntyre Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 That could very well be. For some reason I was thinking the blue belts were a more modern thing. However, as I'm pretty ignorant about this sort of thing...
viscount806x Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 Here's a useful resource site which has been flagged before on BM and specifically there are images of various seats on there including an image of a MB2 seat: http://www.ejectionsite.com/frame_sg.htm
Don McIntyre Posted February 1, 2016 Posted February 1, 2016 Thanks, viscount. I even had that seat bookmarked already. Doh!
BruceG Posted February 3, 2016 Posted February 3, 2016 Venom seats are a Mk2F, which are different to other seats of the same mark, and are closer to Hunter seats. It's never easy!
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