PlaStix Posted February 29, 2016 Author Posted February 29, 2016 Unfortunately acrylic silver has much larger pigments than silver based in enamel or lacquer. Acrylic is maybe fine to imitate silver dope, but bare metal is a different story. If it has to be acrylic, then the new vallejo Metal color is worth a try. It can be brush painted too. But have a look here, This method looks to work well by brush and gives some great results. Cheers, Peter Hi Peter. Thank you for the advice and I appreciate what you mean but, for this build, I'm going to use the best of the paints I've got. My aircraft is going to have to have a slightly 'used' look about it! Thank you again. Kind regards, Stix
giemme Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) First off: that engine cowl is outstanding! You did a heck of a job with those decals! Second: for the metallic finish, my vote goes to Citadel Runefang Steel. Lovely job on the undercarriage bits, too Ciao Edited February 29, 2016 by giemme 1
Cookenbacher Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Your brush painting skills continue to impress Stix! The test pieces look great, I would have guessed you sprayed them. Perhaps you could also try a few types of varnish on your test pieces and choose the effect you like best. 1
sean Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 The Citadel paint, using either one or both, look good, Sean 1
almac Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 I agree with Sean I would go with the Citadel. I've used the Citadel for brush painting small parts and found them to be easy to use and with good reults. Cheers Allan 1
Biggles87 Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Out of those you've tried, it would be the Runefang steel for me too. I don't know if it would work with acrylics, but when using Humbrol Metalcote a small amount ( about 5% ) of pale grey helps to,reduce the grainy effect. Keep up the good work John 1
trickyrich Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 for me it's actually quite hard to see any big difference with your test pieces. The Humbrol Alum looks a bit on the dark side but the silver looks a bit weak. I think you'll be right with any the others, I reckon it should come down to what is the easiest to paint AND gives you the nicest finish. I would pick the two you'd most likely use and do a larger test piece, that'll be the easiest way to see how it will look side by side. But you're making lovely progress, well done. 1
jrlx Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 Superb brush painting with the metallic colours,Stix. I'd say it was airbrushed if I didn't know you used a brush. This just tells how good your painting abilities are Regarding the choice of paints, I agree with others regarding the Citadel. Cheers Jaime 1
PlaStix Posted March 1, 2016 Author Posted March 1, 2016 First off: that engine cowl is outstanding! You did a heck of a job with those decals! Second: for the metallic finish, my vote goes to Citadel Runefang Steel. Lovely job on the undercarriage bits, too Ciao Hi Giemme and thank you. I must admit I'm pleased to have got the cowl decals on - it was one of those things that was bugging me - if I couldn't get it to work I was going to swap to the other scheme in the box!Your brush painting skills continue to impress Stix! The test pieces look great, I would have guessed you sprayed them. Perhaps you could also try a few types of varnish on your test pieces and choose the effect you like best.You are too kind Cookie and thank you for the suggestion about the varnish - I will definitely do that! It wil be good to get an idea of how these will look with varnish on. The Citadel paint, using either one or both, look good, Sean Hi Sean. Yes they do both work well. I'm going to try a couple/few on larger areas just to see which looks best but, the Citadel paints have surprised me with how good they both look. I agree with Sean I would go with the Citadel. I've used the Citadel for brush painting small parts and found them to be easy to use and with good reults. Cheers Allan Hi Allen and thank you for your suggestion. They both do look good on these test pieces. Out of those you've tried, it would be the Runefang steel for me too. I don't know if it would work with acrylics, but when using Humbrol Metalcote a small amount ( about 5% ) of pale grey helps to,reduce the grainy effect. Keep up the good work John Hi John and thank you for the tip. I will have an experiment before I apply any to the aircraft. for me it's actually quite hard to see any big difference with your test pieces. The Humbrol Alum looks a bit on the dark side but the silver looks a bit weak. I think you'll be right with any the others, I reckon it should come down to what is the easiest to paint AND gives you the nicest finish. I would pick the two you'd most likely use and do a larger test piece, that'll be the easiest way to see how it will look side by side. But you're making lovely progress, well done. Hi Rich. Your observations are spot on and thank you for the advice. Superb brush painting with the metallic colours,Stix. I'd say it was airbrushed if I didn't know you used a brush. This just tells how good your painting abilities are Regarding the choice of paints, I agree with others regarding the Citadel. Cheers Jaime Thank you Jaime you are very kind! And thank you for your input too.Looks like I need to have another test with the Citadel paints and possibly the Revell Aluminium. Thank you all again for the advice - this is why it's great being on Britmodeller! Kind regards, Stix 4
wimbledon99 Posted March 2, 2016 Posted March 2, 2016 Another vote for Citadel here Stix. The smaller parts look superb by the way 1
PlaStix Posted March 3, 2016 Author Posted March 3, 2016 Another vote for Citadel here Stix. The smaller parts look superb by the way Hi Nigel. Thank you too for your input. I have to agree with you and the others that on these test pieces the Citadel paints have performed well. I will give both of them a go on some larger areas so I can choose the best for the overall coat. I'll use some of the others to pick out some of the panels.Thank you again. Kind regards, Stix
PlaStix Posted March 5, 2016 Author Posted March 5, 2016 Only a brief update today. I've split my modelling time between this, two Hurricanes and a Spitfire. I wanted to test the Citadel paints today so I decided a good place to start would be on one of the drop tanks - so I glued it together and painted it with Runefang Steel: It's not quite perfect - basically because I was so keen to get on with some of the other buids that I think I put the coats on too quickly, without giving the one before enough time to dry out properly, and it pulled a bit in a couple of places. I think the overall result is okay so I'll probably start with this on the actual aircraft tomorrow. I also did some work on the prop: I need to get the tips painted yellow tomorrow, some pledge on and then I can get the decals applied. More tomorrow (unless I get distracted by other builds!!!!!) Comments and suggestions welcome. Kind regards, Stix 9
Cookenbacher Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 The drop tank definitely bodes well for the rest of the build Stix - very nice. 3
giemme Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 The drop tank definitely bodes well for the rest of the build Stix - very nice. Agreed! And the pull-offs are barely noticeable, so if you paint the rest respecting the timing, you're going to have a stunner Ciao 1
rob85 Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 That's a very nice finish you have the stix, I would be happy with that. I think your choice of the citadel paint is the wisest one, I have been meaning to get some but never find them anywhere! However I stumbled across a games workshop type of shop next to my work. Having a look through the window it would appear they stock them.... It is however only open 4 days a week, so need to come back. Looking forward to the rest of your painting and how you approach it.... If it works I might even try it 😃! Rob 1
sean Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 The drop tank definitely bodes well for the rest of the build Stix - very nice. Yep, I'd agree with that, Sean 1
trickyrich Posted March 5, 2016 Posted March 5, 2016 that tank has come out really well!! If you have the time give it a good 24 hrs between coats to ensure the paint has properly cured. I agree with the others she's going to look amazing! 1
almac Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 I'd have to agree the drop tank is nicely painted so I'm expecting good results with the rest of the plane. No pressure now. Cheers Allan 1
jrlx Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Excellent smooth finish both on the drop tank and the propeller. Looking forward to seeing the aircraft painted. Cheers Jaime 1
Blastvader Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 Blimey Stix, I don't check the thread for a little while and suddenly it's grown by a whole four pages! I'll echo the rest of the rabble though, the Citadel paints look lovely (and it hurts to say that considering my enmity towards the company) good job! 1
PlaStix Posted March 7, 2016 Author Posted March 7, 2016 Looks good Stix, good luck with the airframe Thank you Greg. Any progress with your aircraft? Agreed! And the pull-offs are barely noticeable, so if you paint the rest respecting the timing, you're going to have a stunner Ciao Thank you giemme - sometimes I find it hard to be patient! I think I'm going to have to try to be with this one! That's a very nice finish you have the stix, I would be happy with that. I think your choice of the citadel paint is the wisest one, I have been meaning to get some but never find them anywhere! However I stumbled across a games workshop type of shop next to my work. Having a look through the window it would appear they stock them.... It is however only open 4 days a week, so need to come back. Looking forward to the rest of your painting and how you approach it.... If it works I might even try it ! Rob Hi Rob. Thank you. Yes I got mine from a Games Workshop in Derby. Some GWs seem to have odd opening hours - hope you manage to get there when it's open! Yep, I'd agree with that, Sean Thank you Sean. that tank has come out really well!! If you have the time give it a good 24 hrs between coats to ensure the paint has properly cured. I agree with the others she's going to look amazing! Thank you Rich. Not sure I have enough time to let it dry for 24 hours but I'm definitely going to leave it longer that the 30 minutes or so I did with that one!! I'd have to agree the drop tank is nicely painted so I'm expecting good results with the rest of the plane. No pressure now. Cheers Allan Thank you Allan - nope, no pressure at all Excellent smooth finish both on the drop tank and the propeller. Looking forward to seeing the aircraft painted. Cheers Jaime Thank you Jaime for your kind comments. Blimey Stix, I don't check the thread for a little while and suddenly it's grown by a whole four pages! I'll echo the rest of the rabble though, the Citadel paints look lovely (and it hurts to say that considering my enmity towards the company) good job! Yeah it surprises me too! Thank you. With regards Citadel - Any particular reason for your negative feelings towards them? I'll post an update in the next post - and I'll apologise now - I didn't get around to painting the whole aircraft! Sorry......... KInd regards, Stix 2
PlaStix Posted March 7, 2016 Author Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Okay - as I already mentioned above - I didn't get around to painting the whole aircraft with the Citadel paint. I suddenly realised that I wanted the cockpit windshield to be in place so I could blend in the paint around it so I started work on the internal colour for the whole canopy - in this case I used Revell's Anthracite: For some reason the thinned paint wouldn't apply well and it took lots of thin coats to get it looking like it does above. I still need to tidy up a few areas with a wooden toothpick. While each coat was drying I decided to spend the time getting the decals on the prop blades: This is after they had had some Pledge applied too. I also got some decals on the undercarriage and then got them assembled: The decals for the lower covers don't actually fit that well and I will need to do - either a bit of tidying up/trimming or some slightly heavy weathering! I may lean towards the latter! More next week when I promise (I will think about) getting the whole lot painted! Comments and suggestions welcome. Kind regards, Stix Edited March 7, 2016 by PlaStix 11
Blastvader Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 Yeah it surprises me too! Thank you. With regards Citadel - Any particular reason for your negative feelings towards them? I, for my folly, once worked for GW during their transition (now abandoned I believe) to single-man stores. Myself and colleagues were all summarily dismissed whilst our manager was on holiday and he came back to find that a 7 day a week store was now 5 days, and he was the only employee. Left somewhat of a bitter taste towards the company...also they stopped making their old paint line, for which I actually dislike them for much more. Where shall I get my Lich purple and Rotting Flesh now? Anyway, that's long in the past. Great work on the little fiddly bits. Yo0ur work always looks so neat. Question; do you drybrush before or after applying a wash? 1
giemme Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 Nice work Stix, but now the pressure to see how you paint the NMF grows ... :D Ciao 1
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