fingers Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Hi, I`m building a 1/48 Airfix Lightning f6 and I want to put detail on the belly where the canon barrels protrude, if they do, I have found many pictures of the opening and guard but none which show a barrel, does anyone know how far the barrels stick out and maybe have some pics? Hopefully, Dave Edited December 29, 2015 by fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stever219 Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 Have you had a shufti on the "Walkarounds" pages here and/or "Thunder & Lightnings" site? I'm not sure if XR728 and XS904 at Bruntingthorpe still have their guns fitted, but google the serial numbers and you might get something useful. Unfortunately I can't get to my Lightning references just now, but others who know more and better will probably be along soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Hi Steve, I've google until I'm nearly cross eyed, I've also done the walkarounds on here and many elsewhere. The problem is that the canons seem to be invariably removed and not replaced with a dummy so you are reduced to in service pictures which are usually of a lower quality, I'm hoping someone has a private snap or two or the info. Thanks Steve Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsyouruncle Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 (edited) I bet tweaky will know this answer? In a drawing in Tim Mclellands Lightning book, the barrels look to end short of the openings but it's just a drawing. I took one shot looking 'down the barrel' at Brunty but it's focussed short of what you want to see (should've had my depth of field setting changed), which is included here with the other outer opening shots. Looks like something barrel like down there even if it's not a barrel? Can't see anything protruding in my shots of the nose mounted cannons of the F2/As yet either. Hope this might be of some use anyway. Cheers Bob. Edited December 30, 2015 by bobsyouruncle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share Posted December 30, 2015 Great shots Bob (if that's your name?), they seem to show that the barrel finishes in-board but if so why such an elaborate guard to induce drag? May be it's a pipe to simulate a barrel? Questions questions. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don McIntyre Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 I think the baffles are to help dissipate the gun blast. Those Adens produce a lot of gun gasses, and blast effect, this is one way to prevent damage to the adjoining fuselage area. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 The Barrel didn't protrude from the gun pack. As for the detail around the port All i can day is it was solid and hurt when you walked in to it. I always thought it was there to keep the round moving in a straight line because of the airflow around the port. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza Posted December 30, 2015 Share Posted December 30, 2015 As for the detail around the port All i can day is it was solid and hurt when you walked in to it. I always thought it was there to keep the round moving in a straight line because of the airflow around the port. I also understand that was what the 5 rings were for as well, they provided an area of undisturbed air to allow the projectile to leave the cannon barrel cleanly... -Dazza 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 The Barrel didn't protrude from the gun pack. As for the detail around the port All i can day is it was solid and hurt when you walked in to it. I always thought it was there to keep the round moving in a straight line because of the airflow around the port. I also understand that was what the 5 rings were for as well, they provided an area of undisturbed air to allow the projectile to leave the cannon barrel cleanly... -Dazza Thanks for the info Gents, it seems to me that a barrel not protruding and view-able from the front only and a set of scratch built rings is in order, unless you tell me different. Thanks again Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsyouruncle Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Dave, Airwaves do an etched metal set which has some exterior rings in (48089), as do Eduard (48250). I tried the airwaves ones on mine which I think look ok but I can't remember how many times I dropped them into the carpet before I got hold of the wife's 'special' tweezers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Dave, Airwaves do an etched metal set which has some exterior rings in (48089), as do Eduard (48250). I tried the airwaves ones on mine which I think look ok but I can't remember how many times I dropped them into the carpet before I got hold of the wife's 'special' tweezers. Bob. I've just had a look at those and would have probably gone that way if I hadn't already used a resin pit, though if I got the Eduard set I'd have enough bits to detail an F2, decisions decisions, who'd make models. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 I had the same conundrum when building my Mirage III's. I used some fine wire that was wrapped around a suitably sized rod and then cut to length. First one (not so good) 2nd one, much better! Cheap and cheerful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 I had a go at a bit of scratch building what do you think? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiGFan79 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Look good to me. Tidy and create the right effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Superb! What did you use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingers Posted December 31, 2015 Author Share Posted December 31, 2015 Superb! What did you use? Okay, you probably won't believe this, but I used, holds breath, discs cut from a cotton bud stalk and some drinks can aluminium (well annealed). Once I started hacking and gluing it all fell together quite quickly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabat Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 I dont like to rain on anybody's parade but the actual colour of the "blast deflector" was Red check out the two images I've scanned today both my photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 If you fancy something a bit diferant, you could do this. 27 mm Mauser cannon fitted in lightning ventral tank John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 But it was in an F2A not an F6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 F.2A, I was thinking it could have been XP693 but it was just a guess, still a nice photo John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweeky Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 There was a few pic's floating around on Facebook of the installation in the F2A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It may well be, unfortunatly there isn't much info on the photo other than it's 27mm cannnon. I don't think it is XP693 looking at the bit of seriel number that you can see it looks like it ends in a 5. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It may well be, unfortunatly there isn't much info on the photo other than it's 27mm cannnon. I don't think it is XP693 looking at the bit of seriel number that you can see it looks like it ends in a 5. John The 27mm was not even designed when the Lightning was in service! It came into RAF service on Tornado. Now if you said 30mm ADEN gun,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,! Selwyn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 It's a trials installation Selwyn for the Tornado cannon John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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