S5 modeller Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 Not too sure on the alignment, tomoshenko, t'was only a quick lash up. I will conduct further inspections. The worry I have is, if I fit the wings first, will it make it harder to button up the fuselage after? Let's play spot the difference..... I've only gawn and done it! One smooth port wing. Looks like I'll be attempting my first real crack at scribing. 5
Spookytooth Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Good luck Matt, just take things steadily mate. Simon. 1
Tomoshenko Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Smooth as the baby's proverbial. Looking forward to seeing the finished job. Personally, I tend to find it easier to reduce fuselage gaps via aggressive clamping - you've got plenty of mole grips - than it is to reduce wing root gaps. Don't think you need a crystal ball to foresee plenty of filling and sanding either way, but reckon gluing the wings first would be better. My only concern is that it's difficult to confirm the wings are aligned if you glue them to the fuselage halves first. 1
Martian Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 You will be fine with the re-scribing, just go at it slowly and methodically. You will find that, once you have mastered it, that it is a very useful skill to have. Martin 1
Work In Progress Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Also, it's like weathering. Do what feels like not enough and it will be fine. Most people tend to dig the most terrible trenches, especially when they are starting out. 1
S5 modeller Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 Cheers for the advice and encouragement. This is my weapon of choice, although I've heard a big sewing needle works well. Also heard running tamiya extra thin along the new lines helps neaten them up. Just got to enlarge my drawings to scale, then I can have a go. Also got to sort out the wing tips and navigation lights.
Ascoteer Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 The Tamiya scriber works the bizz. For short lines, tight curves, etc, a sewing machine needle in a pin chuck is the way to go. 2
S5 modeller Posted January 23, 2016 Author Posted January 23, 2016 Thanks for the confirmation, debs, just got to pluck up the courage to have a go now. 1
Ascoteer Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 Just let the tool work for you. ie allow it's weight to do the scribing, do not appy pressure. 3
CedB Posted January 23, 2016 Posted January 23, 2016 I second Deb's warning... NO pressure - those Tamiya things really dig in if you're not gentle (ask me how I know). 1
Martian Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 Thanks for the confirmation, debs, just got to pluck up the courage to have a go now. Since you have removed the raised panel lines you don't really have the option not to have a go. If you do make a mistake just heat stretch some sprue from the kit, glue it into the panel line with some liquid cement and sand flush when dry. You are then ready to have another go. I say use stretched sprue from the kit as it will scribe in the same manner as the rest of the model, you can sometimes tell when someone has scribed over filler. Martin 4
S5 modeller Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 Cheers for the advice Martin, as you say there's no going back now. Will keep the stretched sprue tip in mind too.
Ascoteer Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 I tend to use 'soup' for filling panel lines. 'Soup' is sprue dissolved in liquid cement. I have 3 grades depending on how much filling I want to do using either Mek Pak (lightest grade), Plastic Magic (mid grade) or Plastic Weld (heavy duty grade) as the solvent(s). A word of warning, the more aggressive the solvent the longer you need to let it flash off and the longer the soup takes to fully harden. 1
S5 modeller Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 Debs, can you use the tube glue,that comes in airfix starter sets, to make the soup? Got loads of the little blighters knocking around.
Ascoteer Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 I doubt it. The tube glue has a 'filler' in it so I don't think it would dissolve the sprue as well as a liquid. 1
S5 modeller Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 Thanks debs. My pot of tamiya extea thin is getting empty now, so might start feeding it. Matt 1
Martian Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 You are a bad influence S5. As a result of this thread, I have spent a couple of hours sanding away at the engines on my Hereford. At least the Miliput was properly cured after all these years! 5
S5 modeller Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 Me? A bad influence sir? Never! She's crying out to be finished. More power to your elbow mate. 2
S5 modeller Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) Good evening. After sanding off all those 'orrible rivets I've been looking at the wing tip correction. It fell off in my hand, honest guvnor! Took my trusty razor saw to the wings. I followed the old rivets to give me a guide to cut to. Both wings have been trimmed back. Before trimming them I took an overall length measurement of the wing length, and had to replace about 10mm of material. I laminated 2 pieces of 0.060" and 1 piece of 0.02" plasticard to give me the correct thickness (plus a little extra) to shape the tip from. I put the 20 thou in the middle, and left a tab, that slides nicely into the wing. Glued them in, with plenty of cement,and got a nice fit. Going to leave them overnight to set, then I can start shaping the tips. Anyone got a photo of the navigation lights? Airfix have shown them on the instructions as being a solid colour, like a complete green and red lense over the bulbs. Is that correct? Would it be better to represent them in clear plastic? Not in a rush to do them, as the tips need shaping first. Oh well, back to sanding rivets off of the fuselage halves. Matt Edited January 24, 2016 by S5 modeller 1
Spookytooth Posted January 24, 2016 Posted January 24, 2016 What are you using to sand the rivets down with? A grinder LOL. Looking good Matt Simon. 1
S5 modeller Posted January 24, 2016 Author Posted January 24, 2016 I'm using 360 grit sandpaper, then 1800 grit wet and dry, Simon. Slow going, but getting there. Only got the tail assembly to do now. 1
Martian Posted January 25, 2016 Posted January 25, 2016 Good luck with those wing tips. I have horrible feeling that you will fare better than I will with my Airwaves "correction" set. Martin 1
S5 modeller Posted January 25, 2016 Author Posted January 25, 2016 Good luck with those wing tips. I have horrible feeling that you will fare better than I will with my Airwaves "correction" set. Martin Thanks Martin. After seeing the quality of the airwaves etch set, I've given the tip correction set a wide berth. Hopefully I will get some initial shaping done tonight.
S5 modeller Posted January 27, 2016 Author Posted January 27, 2016 Hello again. Not much to show I'm affraid. Done the initial shaping of the new wing tips. Managed to file and sand both tips to the aerofoil shape of the wing. Took some doing,mind you, there was a fair bit of material to remove. The photo makes the filler look rough, but in reality it's nice and smooth. Just need to blow up the instruction sheet,so I can profile the shape, the cut out the formation lights. Not sure if I'll use clear plastic, or try to find some coloured plastic. Keep looking fir clear red and green toothbrushes, but not foubd any yet. Matt 2
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