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1/72 Dornier J I-II Wal - test sprues


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Some of the sprues appear to be duplicates, including the weapons, but even allowing for this there's a wide range of options for propellers suggesting that a number of the (considerable) variations of the Wal will be appearing.

The earlier kit was indeed Huma.

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Here:

http://karopka.ru/community/user/7710/?MODEL=212961

are photos of Huma's Wal sprues. I am not any specialist on Wal (yet, but I am learning...? :)) but apparently those are different versions. First you may notice difference in wing tips (rounded in Huma or squared in A-model kits). Many other details are completly different - for exaple propellers - two three blades metal propellers in Huma, variation of 2 or 2x2 blades propellers in A-model. Fin and rudders - two in Huma but A-model another, also more squared like wings. The same with stabilizers. All together it looks that Huma is the latest military variant (Do 15) - almost (except propellers) fits to one varant of Yugoslavian machines (they have 4 variants, one with serial 200 was J-I, the rest machine having numbers I think 250-261 were J-II with different engines (low numbered five or six with radial engines and 4 blades props, then rest with two kinds of V engines and combinations of 2 and 4 props) with different finns but all with rounded wing tips and stabilizers - very late variants) and the A-model fits better to Spanish ones from SCW (for example 70-10)....

Cheers

Jerzy-Wojtek

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Do you know by any chance which version corresponds with the Dutch planes used in the East Indies? I wasn't aware of all these differences when I bought the Huma kit 25 years ago.

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Here one can find a book on Wal in Dutch service, as I presume in Dutch

http://www.geromybv.nl/Dornier-Wal/en

Other photo here

http://www.catawiki.com/catalog/postcards/themes/naval-aviation-in-the-netherlands/3461411-dornier-wal-d23

For me they looks identical (?) to the Spanish ones (70-10, 70-25... http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/MM/MM-109/1010-29-1-1.jpg, http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AM/AM06-5/39-1.jpg )- squared wingtips and stabilizers and rudder - perhaps this is "early J II", because there are much older Wals like that of Madrid museum Cuatro Vientos - "Plus Ultra" which is JI

From what is on photos in above links it looks that Dutch had exactly version doable from A-model Wal, perhaps it should be named "early JII". I have not found info on use of Dutch Wals during WWII. Are you sure about it?

Regards

J-W

P.S.

BTW - here is offer for interesting model in 1/72... for only 4000 euro :)

http://www.quirao.com/en/p/scale-display-models/aircraft/20035/miniature-avion-dornier-do-j-wal-fm148.htm

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From pictures on the link below it looks like the Dutch had both the Lorraine-Dietrich powered versions as well as the Courlis-powered versions (F). I'm also seeing two different rudders in these pictures.

http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=705:dornier-wal-uk&catid=85〈=en&Itemid=547&showall=&limitstart=1

This link provides a comprehensive overview of the Dutch planes:

http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=705:dornier-wal-uk&catid=85〈=en&Itemid=547&showall=&limitstart=2

It seems the F-versions saw action in the Indies during WWII, the older variants were written off in 1940 latest.

Interestingly the same page also mentions the following:

  • Huma
    • Kit 6000: Dornier Do J Wal (Versions A,B,D,E) (for Dutch version a conversion of wings and fuselage is necessary)

Even more reason to be interested in this kit, I definitely want to build a Dutch plane.

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Thanks Sroubos for your info. Interesting is that the Wal with numbers above D40 took part in WWII. But here they are ommited:

http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/waf/neth/mld/types/dornier_wal.htm- I do not know why? In your link there are photos of D41, for example. So they existed. This Dutch machine is very temptating to construct.

Nevertheless - still no photo with orange triangles....

Best regards

J-W

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Maybe I should get me one of these - the period between the wars has always facinated me - a period of inovation and pioneering in aviation - the long distance transoceanic flights across the Atlantic and Pacific by Alcock & Brown, Lindberg and Kingsford-Smith to name a few. The planes - the Val, Fokker EIII, DH Comet, Vimy etc. :pilot:

Hmmmm........maybe I've just been borne too late........................ :winkgrin:

Cheers

Hans J

(who has a Mirage to rescribe.... :fight: )

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I built the Huma one many years ago, but I might have to pick up this one, especially in the Soviet markings.

Regards,

Jason

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Recently I did Huma one converted to Yugoslovian one (posted on RFI this year) but Dutch or Spanish one from this kit is very temptaiting to me....

Cheers

J-W

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Thanks for posting about the Spanish version.

 

I was beginning to think they had forgotten about it :( .

 

Been looking forward to this all year. Hope I can get one before Christmas :waiting: .

 

All the best

 

TonyT

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