seuthe smoke/steam generator

[S5 modeller]

Hi chaps.

I want to incorporate some smoke into a build I have planned.

I've tried looking into seuthe smoke generators, for model trains, but seem to be having trouble finding out much information about them.

Tried the seuthe website, but it's all in german. Does anyone have a link to an english version?

Googling only brings up sites selling the units, but no info about how they work, or what applications they have.

Thought this would be the best place to ask.

Hope someone can help.

Thanks in advance.

Matt

Edited December 11, 2015 by S5 modeller

[Seahawk]

Now there's a term I haven't heard for a while! Way back when I had a Tri-Ang Standard 3 2-6-2 tank with one of these. From what I remember there was a brass outer casing about the diameter of a .22 cartridge and a central wire (element?). You put drops of a special fluid (smelled rather nice) into the gap between the central core and the outer casing. I imagine (but never watched!) that the central element heated up the fluid to generate smoke.

Apparently these things are still going strong. There seems to be loads on the web about them, not least the dangers to plastic body shells from the heat generated. Have you seen this for example?

http://www.youchoos.co.uk/Index-Resource.asp?L1=Guides&Item=Smoke

[S5 modeller]

Thanks seahawk, that's a very useful link.

[S5 modeller]

Can these generators be connected direct to a power supply?

All the info points to using a dcc? controller, but as it's not for a rail layout I won't be using one.

[Seahawk]

Search me! I've told you all I know.

But this link suggests it can:

http://tomlancaster.weebly.com/fitting-seuthe-smoke-units.html

And I'm sure I saw a reference earlier this morning to fittinh it to factory chimneys as well as locomotives.

[swordfish fairey]

Have a look at these, for model boats and they kick out a lot more smoke than the railway ones.........

http://www.action-electronics.co.uk/pdfs/SMOKERS.pdf

http://marksmodelbits.ieasysite.com/ecommerce_002.htm

http://www.harbormodels.com/site08/main_pages/smoker.htm

The ones at MMB use tap water but need more umph in the electrical department......................

Smudge

Tony

[George Norman]

Check here bud, bit of info and a Downloadable sheet

You don't need DCC to run these. Both types work.

http://www.gaugemaster.com/seuthe.html

http://www.gaugemaster.com/instructions/seuthe.pdf

Just make sure to have a switch on / off so you don't burn it out.

Personally I would go with a Water based one with a fan as they produce nice effects. I am getting one of those for a boat from Marksmodelbits but as of yesterday he did not have them in stock but will take an order. you will need to by pass the ESC to power the fan maybe use a dimmer switch or such.

Edited December 12, 2015 by George Norman

[S5 modeller]

Cheers chaps, you've been most helpful.

Will have a read up.

That mmb foggy unit looks just like what I'm after.

Matt

Edited December 12, 2015 by S5 modeller

[swordfish fairey]

Just remember though Matt, that using the water based unit produces a mist of water vapour that could cover everything, not so bad for a model boat, but anywhere near electrics??

Smudge

[S5 modeller]

Thanks for the heads up smudge. Will need some careful planning I think.

[Pete610]

^{The in-house one used by Hornby until recently picked up DC current directly from the chassis of the loco @12V DC, so yes to the direct connection to 12V current.}

^{However, do not let it run dry as the after effects are warped melted plastic and consequent useless body....}