perdu Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Halfords Appliance white topcoat On top of Alclad High build primer (clue, it doesn't. Build high) If you simply apply in lightly measured quantities, but gives a very flat even finish Allow a b+++y decent time for the Alclad to flash off though, I might advise getting into one of the cammy ones before you come back and Snoopify the lost lamb There is a queue behind me all with similar, but disparate advice Best advice? Never ask for any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coors54 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Halfords rattle can white primer gets my vote, just about to get some fresh for my 1/32 Phantom build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 p.s. that is Alclad's White HB primer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 p.s. that is Alclad's White HB primer Careful with that Debs, as Bill said earlier you do need to use those lightly measured quantities. The one & only time Mr.reallyhamfistedmodeller here used it, he didn't & subsequently had many a fun filled hour rescribing all the panel lines on the Fujimi Phantom that he'd managed to completely fill with the stuff! I also like Halfords (or Hycote, much the same, but lots cheaper) white primers, but now tend to decant & airbrush the stuff. My reallyhamfistedness also rears it's ugly head when trying to use rattle cans! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 True-er confession time I love the (danger and) finish of the Alclad but in your shoes Debs I would probably use Tamiya's White aerosol primer Acrylic and can be applied lightly, but I feel its orangepeelability is slightly higher than Alclad's I am about to Alclad my hansom cab (next week, I'm not rushing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 18, 2016 Author Share Posted February 18, 2016 Oh dear gods. Hmm I'm not about to try to decant stuff out of a bloody aerosol, that way madness (or total disaster) lies! I need an airbrush primer. I'm leaning towards Tamiya White ATM. Either that or I'll just etch prime just like I would a fibreglass sports car... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Oh Lordy that's starting to look superb ^^^ he beat me to it - that's wot I wuz going to say! True-er confession time I am about to Alclad my hansom cab (next week, I'm not rushing) where's the photo's ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I'm suffering from a surfeit of Photocrappulology and the latest iteration of Flickr deserves a far more XRated version of its name than I can risk here (Ladies present don't ya know) So I haven't even started a WIP cos I'm so bebaggered with pB I will risk one 'storysofar' shot but as I don't have a thread current to pop it in, where do you wannit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 I'm not going to make it to Huddersfield Apparently, according to Perdu, Snoopy goes on hold for a wee while while he goes in to primer. Hmmmm.... Next Albert? Probably be a Tanker... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I'm a bit peed off that you can't make it Debs, but to be fair it is at the limit of my "not too bad for an early start,- quite" range here in Brumshire Will you be able to make Cosford for the Shropshire Modellers do? My club usually get to nestle just under t'TSR2 and I often get my skull impaled on the bl=== VHF ant hanging under the nose OuWWWWch April... edit did I really just type VHS? Dohh Edited February 19, 2016 by perdu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 19, 2016 Author Share Posted February 19, 2016 I've had too many bills on the MG this month to justify the petrol for Huddersfield. Am planning on Cosford tho - 'nother stay in the Mess methinks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Are you considering taking a Transport Fleet eye to their display options, whilst you while away the hours in the Mess? See you there then, maybe even remind me of the Jetstream I forgotted (Truly sorry 'bout that, I'll visit the bird in May when our MASC area have our tunnels and Cosford run. And grovel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) Debs I've got some alclad white primer & microfilmer (which I confess I haven't tried yet and so I s'pose it might be said this post ain't very helpful - altho' that can also be said about many of my posts ) - BUT I have used both the alclad grey and black versions and really liked them. They airbrush really nicely and cos they're lacquer based they dry really quickly and resist handling really well. I think it's be good stuff to evenly cover up the different materials you've used. I might be tempted to give it a light initial coat of grey - it's inevitable that you'll have a few area that will need some more attention (at least it's inevitable if you're me) and you'll probably need to micro mesh the surface any way - and then go over it with white afterwards. Mike did a review here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/53310-alclad-primer/ At the mo it's my primer of choice. Edited February 19, 2016 by Fritag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Wow, just caught up with the Herc, its looking the dogs danglies now its all together Debs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Oh dear gods. Hmm I'm not about to try to decant stuff out of a bloody aerosol, that way madness (or total disaster) lies! I need an airbrush primer. 'Tis easy (must be if I can do it!). Take one drinking straw. Cut it down to about 2-3 inches. Shake rattle can of primer to death. Blutack the straw onto the nozzle. Cover an open glass jar (eg an old cleaned out Tamiya paint pot or similar) with clingfilm. Punch a hole through clingfilm roughly straw sized & insert straw blutacked to can. Spray as much primer as desired into jar. Remove straw & clingfilm. Leave lid off jar for an hour or so for paint to gas out. Done & ready to airbrush. You could fill a jar with lovely airbrush ready white primer in half the time it took to type this....!! K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S5 modeller Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Another vote against alclad white primer. I've used it, and the coverage is rubbish. I found you spray and spray and it doesn't seem to cover, then all of a sudden all the panel lines are filled in! Got a reaper needing stripping because of it. Can't praise alclad grey primer enough, it works grwat, and covers nice and even. Gives a nice finish too. Good work on snoopy Debs. She really looks the part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I would go for Fritags method above, especially if you opt for the Tamiya white primer. The Tamiya white is a little transparent and the different plastic shades would show through. Give it a good coating of grey, sort out all the blemishes and then a thin final grey to give you a uniform colour, then a light dusting of white primer to give a nice base. I did it that way on my Cormorant to get rid of the horrid yellow plastic! Smashing flaps by the way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomoshenko Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I'd opt for Fritag's method. I use both Alclad white and grey and recommend them both. However, as noted above, if using the white, build it up with light misty coats as it is somewhat translucent, and the temptation will be to over compensate and fill in and gloop over your details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I'm still pretty inexperienced on this malarkey but I've found Badger Stynylrez easy to use and it covers and sands well IMHO. eModels are stocking it now so also easier to get hold of? HTH, nervous of Bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonl Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I always used Halfords rattle can primer. I find it to be ok, although there's no control, as said above I could decant it but I loose the will....! Patience when applying it does the trick. I would strongly suggest that you stay away from Vallejo primer, it's awful. At the mere sight of a sanding stick it peels off....The most annoying stuff ever created... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Another vote against alclad white primer. I've used it, and the coverage is rubbish. I found you spray and spray and it doesn't seem to cover, then all of a sudden all the panel lines are filled in! Glad it's not just me, that's exactly what happened on my Phantom! K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 (edited) I've had too many bills on the MG this month to justify the petrol for Huddersfield. Am planning on Cosford tho - 'nother stay in the Mess methinks. Some folks will run expensive motors.......................... Might have a slither over to Cosford meself if Mrs Miggers fancies,though last time we went she was rather bored. 'Tis easy (must be if I can do it!). Take one drinking straw. Cut it down to about 2-3 inches. Shake rattle can of primer to death. Blutack the straw onto the nozzle. Cover an open glass jar (eg an old cleaned out Tamiya paint pot or similar) with clingfilm. Punch a hole through clingfilm roughly straw sized & insert straw blutacked to can. Spray as much primer as desired into jar. Remove straw & clingfilm. Leave lid off jar for an hour or so for paint to gas out. Done & ready to airbrush. You could fill a jar with lovely airbrush ready white primer in half the time it took to type this....!! K Correctamundo. Done that wheeze many times myself both for modelling applications and when painting R/C car bodies. Works a treat. Edited February 19, 2016 by Miggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Another vote for Mr. Fritag's suggestion - Alclad Grey Primer and Microfiller is what I always use. It's like a thin, primer version of Mr. Surfacer. Since I only use a lowly Paasche Model H, single action, external mix antique airbrush, I switch to the No.5 (1 mm) color adjuster and air cap when I spray it. That'll cover your old Snoopy bird real quick. Cheers, Bill PS. Wear a ventilator. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I am with Fritag too. The Alcad Primer/micro-filler is very easy to use. The white is slightly finer but sticks like ....to a blanket. Simon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 22, 2016 Author Share Posted February 22, 2016 OK Alclad primer ordered. Although I must confess to being a tad worried that, since it is a laquer it will eat the plastic that is Snoopy. Oh, and what do you thin the stuff with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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