Ascoteer Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Oh gawds more damn boatie malarkey! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Well, you need to have something to carry the things which don't fit into Alberts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Well, you need to have something to carry the things which don't fit into Alberts. I though that's what squaddies were for ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregozmods Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I mentioned that both Airfix and italeri got the engines wrong. What I forgot to say was that both kits rather poorly represent the Allison jet pipes. Fortunately aftermarket resin ones are available from the Australian company 'OzMods' (they also do J model jet pipes): When it comes to the T56-A-15 engines you have 2 choices, either those by 'Flightpath' or those by 'Heritage Aviation Models'. The Flightpath set had been unavailable for quite some time (although they are now listed as available), so I went with the Heritage set: There is also some debate as to the accuracy of the Airfix External Fuel Tanks (the Sergeant Fletcher 6000lb tanks), these being a tad short in length, somewhat anorexic in overall diameter and too 'waisted' at the aft end. Sadly the Combat Conversions ones in the WMk2 kit are just plain wrong and look nothing like the real thing. Heritage do a set of External Tanks but I have not had chance to have a look at them, I may just use the Italeris as masters and cast up my own. Finally, for building a Tanker I managed to snag this from Ebay: It's a white metal conversion kit (so less than ideal) but will serve as the basis of the conversion (who knows I may use it to cast my own resin parts). The instructions are quite reasonable for the placement of the HDU coooler ram air intakes and heat exchanger exhaust that were unique to the CMk1K. Certainly the drawings are better than those by S Slater that appeared the issue December 1983 of Airfix Magazine. OzMods also do the nacelle correction upgrade for the C-130J. Apart from the 4 nacelles, the set also includes four spinners, four vent doors and 24 (usually packed with a couple of extra) simitar blades. See details at http://www.ozmods-kits.com/ozmods-conversions-upgrades-accessories-172 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Attack Squadron also do the J engines and are coming out with E/H versions. http://www.armahobby.com/c-130-j-engine-nacelles.html They also do a sponson correction set for the Italeri J. http://www.armahobby.com/c-130j-sponson-correction-for-italeri.html And they also do a refueling pod set but this is probably just for the US Marines version. http://www.armahobby.com/kc-130-j-refueling-pod-zasobnik-do-tankowania.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 The refueling pods are US but would suit an RAF J if we ever get the helo AAR capability they are currently talking about. AIUI the J has a 'ro ro' functionality for role change to tanker configuration. The RAF Js are set up for this and the capability was originally budgeted for (before being spent on other things). The sponson corrections, while for a J would also suit an H model or a late Civilian L100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Today I built up the nosewheel bay. Airfix don't provide a roof to the bay (unlike Italeri) so I built it up from 30thou Plastikard and detailed it with some 10thou plastikard and 0.4mm lead wire. It's not totally prototypical but as good as I can get it for now. I then had a think about closing up the fuselage and... Well there's a serious amount of twist in the fuselage halves so a fair bit of clamping is going to be required. Initially I wasn't going to cut the radome off until the fuselage halves were together but, given the warpage and the difficulty in getting the halves to mate up, I think removing the radome at this stage may be of help. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I think I'd glue what I'd got instead of hoping to get a strong joint from what is left With the wheel bay installed and glueing around the nose surely the main structure needs help staying put but I ain't a doing of it meself yet You have certainly got lots of the extras you will need I like this one lots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 The twist is such that getting the fuselage halves together with the radome in place requires more force than with it removed. I have a cunning plan. Having removed the radome (just forward of the front bulkhead) I am treating this like a vacform kit and glueing in reinforcing plates along the upper and lower fuselage join lines. Once these have set I shall batter the fuselage into where I want it to be. HA! As Steve said, this kit is going to fight me all the way to the line. Sigh... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As Steve said, this kit is going to fight me all the way to the line. Sigh... It may well do, but I know who my money's on to win...!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 This should serve to illustrate what I mean by treating the fuselage as if it is a vacform: 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Those tabs are a smart idea I reckon. Looks like you'll need all the extra gluing/mating area you can get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Aye that's what I thought, if only to act as a base for the inevitible filling and sanding that is going to be required. It would be sooooo nice if the manufacturers would do a decent Albert.... Helloo, Airfix, Revell?...You can both do a bloody Shack. A Shack dear gods! What about the single most important airlifter in the history of airlift? What's that? Oh you want to do another bloody Tornado... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'd even put up with one from Roden given the job they did on the AN-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 As long as we get a decent one Jessica I don't care.While I am having fun with my 4 Albert 5 Albert build, it would be nice if SOMEONE would do an ACTUALLY accurate Albert kit! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 As long as we get a decent one Jessica I don't care. While I am having fun with my 4 Albert 5 Albert build, it would be nice if SOMEONE would do an ACTUALLY accurate Albert kit! It'll be announced just after you apply the last decal to your fifth one Debs. Best get on with them then...!! K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philp Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yes, please get them done as I also would love a good kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayB24 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 I built the Airfix kit as a Christmas present when I was 9 in the late 70's so we need a new up to date version. Can you get all 5 done by say September that way a new one will be out By october and it will be for sale in LHS In Canada by Christmas .. Oh wait we're not supposed to call it that.... Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Yes we are Ray. Anything else offends me. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 You're beating this into submission in style As you say the world is waaaay overdue an accurate Albert. Re the RAF getting tanking capability. It isn't going to happen. The last three A400's on order were due to be tankers, but were cancelled rumour has it because Air Tanker has exclusive dibs on that role. Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Apparently the MOD are talking about an AAR requirement for Helos. The French have found that the A400 is totally unsuitable for this role and, as a result have bought.... Oh yes, Alberts. I take your point about the Air Tinkers though. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs taking out and shooting... Aside from haemorraging money from the Defence Budget like it's going out of fashion (£1 million / day) they're also hemorraging RAF pilots to Civy Street (like no one could see that coming ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 ... Looks like you'll need all the extra gluing/mating area you can get. It's an age thing Steve. Happens to all of us past 30, not just plastic kits. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalbert Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 The more I hear about the airbus thing ,the more it sounds like a white elephant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggers Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Apparently the MOD are talking about an AAR requirement for Helos. The French have found that the A400 is totally unsuitable for this role and, as a result have bought.... Oh yes, Alberts. I take your point about the Air Tinkers though. Whoever thought that was a good idea needs taking out and shooting... Aside from haemorraging money from the Defence Budget like it's going out of fashion (£1 million / day) they're also hemorraging RAF pilots to Civy Street (like no one could see that coming ). Good grief,surely not more Fritag types haring about in Porsches........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascoteer Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Porsche smorsche! Nitrous Injected MGTF (that has had a Deb's 'Special Tuning') is the way to go! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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