Learstang Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Keep up the good work, Glenn, and I do hope you proceed with the Neptune MR.1! I have the decals and the donor kit, now all I need is a conversion set. Back to you Neil and your absurdly fast-moving build of the Manchester (fast-moving as compared to my build - at this point mine is not so much a build as an avant-garde sculpture of my impression of a semi-completed Manchester). Regards, Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 Looks great Woody, the paints you use, do they spray gloss Hi Kev, The Mr Hobby stuff does, but the Tamiya is matt. I always spray a coat of Kleet after each colour as it strengthens it up and stops the paint from pulling away after masking, learned that the hard way! Looks fantastic, Neil. I really like the effect you've achieved there - visible but subtle enough to be non-intrusive. A delicate balancing act that you seem to have pulled off rather well! Will you do the same with the black - I imagine that could be quite a bit more tricky...? Tom Hi Tom, cheers. I'm going to attempt it. There's no harm does as I go over the effect with the base colour afterwards to blend it in more Keep up the good work, Glenn, and I do hope you proceed with the Neptune MR.1! I have the decals and the donor kit, now all I need is a conversion set. Back to you Neil and your absurdly fast-moving build of the Manchester (fast-moving as compared to my build - at this point mine is not so much a build as an avant-garde sculpture of my impression of a semi-completed Manchester). Regards, Jason Jason, the KUTA group build should be full of Avro's, no pressure, but there's around 15,000 members on here all waiting for you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlaStix Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Beautiful modelling Woody! Excellent progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Looking good Neil, should be ready soon, (time to squeeze in another one before Huddy then !)... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cees Broere Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Manchester question, Does anyone know if the horizontal tailplane with greater span ( as used on the Lancaster ) was created by enlarging the outer section or putting in sections at the root? (There is a 1/32 relation here) Cheers Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 if memory serves me correct they just extended the tail plain when they made the Lancaster , Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malpaso Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Manchester question, Does anyone know if the horizontal tailplane with greater span ( as used on the Lancaster ) was created by enlarging the outer section or putting in sections at the root? (There is a 1/32 relation here) Cheers Cees I would imagine the whole tailplane would have been re-engineered (at least on paper) to some degree. As well as the increased span loads, the larger endplate fins and rudders of the "lanc"-type would give different (presumably larger) side loadings and moments. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 Cees, I'll have a look to see what the drawings show in the Warpaint magazine to see if there are any clues. I'll let you know tomorrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Hi Cees, Looking at the drawings, the chord dimensions are the same as is the chord at the outer part, but just the span changed. Hope that is of help? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 Come on Neil, I think you are teasing us here, all well and good about sermantinks but what about the model... (STINC) Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Hear, hear! Quite right! Neil, quite frankly I'm tired of your laggard, lay-about attitude towards this model. Get onw't man! How am I ever to know what a finished Manchester model looks like unless you finish yours (or I could look at your two other finished Manchesters on this site)? Regards, Jason Edited December 17, 2015 by Learstang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 17, 2015 Author Share Posted December 17, 2015 Slacking this week gents, too many other things been going on, however I started applying the blue tac tonight to the fuselage for masking. To get the wavy demarcation line, I'm applying a fairly thick roll and using a rounded scribing tool handle to press the waves in to it. Looks rather successful. Should get the black applied this weekend. Jason, you spend too much time trawling BM as it is, now get back to your bench and get your big Avro box out!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 You mean my Big Box O' Unfinished Lancs? Methinks perhaps I shall do a spot of work on one of my unfinished wonders. Might do me good to get some real modelling in instead of thinking of clever posts. Best Regards, Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ekedahl Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 (edited) Slacking this week gents, too many other things been going on, however I started applying the blue tac tonight to the fuselage for masking. To get the wavy demarcation line, I'm applying a fairly thick roll and using a rounded scribing tool handle to press the waves in to it. Looks rather successful. Should get the black applied this weekend. Jason, you spend too much time trawling BM as it is, now get back to your bench and get your big Avro box out!!!! There was a build article in one of the modelling magazines (SAMI?) written by the guy who built the Manchester from the Paragon conversion kit I mentioned in an earlier post. The article provided a printed template for the wavy demarcation line. Edited December 19, 2015 by Sten Ekedahl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 That's interesting; thank you for posting Sten! That might be worth tracking down. I've actually already done that bit of painting on my semi-legendary semi-built Manchester, but at the rate I'm cranking these babies out, I'll probably be building a Mk.IA Manchester in, oh, about 12 years. Seriously, though, that template would prove handy in case I do tackle another Manchester. Regards, Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 18, 2015 Share Posted December 18, 2015 Here is one I finished earlier . . . I counted how many 'waves' there were, 15 I think, measured the distance and marked off the semi-circles then hand painted. The wings, were reduced from the Lancaster wings and the engines sratched. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Looking at the wavey demarcation lines on real aircraft, there doesn't appear to be a consistent finish. Many were repainted in service. As a ball park looking at references, each wave correlates with a window position in terms of spacing, so I'll be using that as a guide. As I can't find any photo's of L7381, I'll be making assumptions based on readily available images of L7380. Lovely build mate, although it doesn't look finished there. Do you have any more photo's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 An unfinished Manchester?!! Shocking! Not to be allowed! Okay, Neil, you knew I'd have to say something about that. Mancunian airman, it's something of a running joke between Neil and me regarding my Manchester that I've been working on for more than a decade now (and some other Lancaster family aircraft that I've been working on for somewhat less time, but just as unfinished). Nice work on yours! If I had tried to scratchbuild the modifications on mine, I could have added another decade for me to finish the b****y thing. Regards, Jason 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share Posted December 19, 2015 I think that is the model he posted earlier in this thread come to think of it, and a rather stunning finish it was. Manchester all masked up now for the black to go down, I'll get some piccies done later of the fuselage masking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I think that is the model he posted earlier in this thread come to think of it, and a rather stunning finish it was. Manchester all masked up now for the black to go down, I'll get some piccies done later of the fuselage masking. Thats right See page 2. Q-Queenie from 83 Sqdn. RAF SCampton. Inspired by John Bushby and his book 'Gunners Moon' 1972 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 19, 2015 Author Share Posted December 19, 2015 Not read that, so will have to see if I can get a copy Here's the masking done... Â Â Â 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cees Broere Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 Neil, That looks very nice, that triple tail looks good to. Still haven't made up my mind but thanks for the information. Cees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 You have to do the triple tail, Cees! Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 I kinda like both. I like the early look on the triple tail, something about it gives it that early war look, but the aesthetics of the twin tail are hard to be beaten. Got the black on last night. A few touch ups needed here and there, but happy with it. This is the nearest aircraft to L7381 that I can find pictures for, so I'm using it as the reference. I bought some roundels, but they are too small, these are larger than 54" looking at them, so need to see what I can do. Â Â Â Â 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cngaero Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 Yet another masterclass. This is coming along beautifully. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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