AndyC Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Bit of patience John, like you say maybe work at it with water and dabbing it will reduce that strange effect. Otherwise...I always love complex masking...great work! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 it's a shame about the mask as it scheme looks amazing! I'm with everyone else on this, let the paint cure for a couple of days, it will make it less susceptible to damage. Then I would try a solution of warm water and a soft soap to start with....you maybe about to use dilute alcohol but I would be very careful though. You could also try using a rubber/eraser, it will act as a very soft abrasive and should remove any sticky material, but again only after the paint has cured. A light polish with 8000 grit microfibre pad will help restore a shine. Whatever you do, just take your time, you should be able to sort it out without having to repaint. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 You may have some success using WD40: I've successfully removed every type of residue without harming paintwork , including Tamiya tape that was wet with too much cellulose thinner to BMF glue. As always, try it on a small area first. BTW on canopies, it makes them sparkle like Future. Anil 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 You may have some success using WD40: I've successfully removed every type of residue without harming paintwork , including Tamiya tape that was wet with too much cellulose thinner to BMF glue. As always, try it on a small area first. BTW on canopies, it makes them sparkle like Future. Anil Anil, Many thanks for the WD40 tip, it has worked a treat. I had tried rubbing some neat washing up liquid across the sticky areas using a cotton bud and then rinsing with water but I was finding that this method was spreading red into the white areas where I had burnished the edge of the tape. But the WD40 removed the sticky layer from the red and also where it had spread across to the white. The cotton bud did look quite red, but I assume that this was a reaction between glue and paint and the layers underneath were undamaged. Whilst there are still some spots that need further treatment and I will need to do some touch up and, fingers crossed, a rescue certainly looks more of a possibility now. I think that I might try it on a canopy at some point too, but not on this one - I think this one has undergone enough experimentation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 it sounds like you have had some success, hopefully you don't have to do too much touch-up work. Interesting WD40 tip....may have to experiment with that at home! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Glad to hear you've sorted the residues, this WD40 tip is something to keep in mind. Thanks Anil for posting this ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Rich and Giorgio, I'll post some photos later on, before I start to clean up the spots that I missed, that way you can see the results after an initial application of WD40. Post edited to include photos. ​Shown in the photos are the same two areas highlighted at post #73. You can see that most of the residue has gone after an initial application. On the underside photo you can also see where some of the residue has contaminated the white areas, further investigation has shown that this is also removable using Anil's WD40 tip. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 nimrod54, on 03 Feb 2016 - 7:06 PM, said: Anil, Many thanks for the WD40 tip, it has worked a treat. I had tried rubbing some neat washing up liquid across the sticky areas using a cotton bud and then rinsing with water but I was finding that this method was spreading red into the white areas where I had burnished the edge of the tape. But the WD40 removed the sticky layer from the red and also where it had spread across to the white. The cotton bud did look quite red, but I assume that this was a reaction between glue and paint and the layers underneath were undamaged. Whilst there are still some spots that need further treatment and I will need to do some touch up and, fingers crossed, a rescue certainly looks more of a possibility now. I think that I might try it on a canopy at some point too, but not on this one - I think this one has undergone enough experimentation. My pleasure, but always test on the various paints you use , some are impervious some not. Now pray for me, I'm going back to my Hobbyboss F-5e and its grand canyon wing gaps...: Cheers Anil 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Excellent advice on the WD40 Anil, I'll have to file that away. John, I don't know how, but you've managed to top yourself with that scheme. Beautiful. The only problem now, is figuring how to top this one on your next build! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 That's great that the WD40 trick worked, by the looks of it just some minor touch-up work to sort out. I can see sales of WD40 climbing within the Britmodeller community....may have to buy some shares in it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azureglo Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Hey John just a reminder that you should thoroughly remove the WD40 with washing up liquid/water prior to glossing for decals etc. Sounds obvious but nothing much will stick to a nice thin film of WD40! Cheers Anil 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 6, 2016 Author Share Posted February 6, 2016 Thanks for the reminder Anil. I had already given it a wash after the initial coat, but it is always good to have a reminder and I will be giving it a couple of good washes with some warm soapy water after the final clean-up. I hope that the Grand Canyon gap filling is going well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jean Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Hi John, your F-5 does really look smashing with such an intricate paint scheme. Congrats on your technique! The doors of Hell must have cracked open in front of your eyes when you saw what the frisket did to your exacting paint job!!!! A relief that is was salvageable!!! Almost finished then. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 8, 2016 Author Share Posted February 8, 2016 Hi John, your F-5 does really look smashing with such an intricate paint scheme. Congrats on your technique! The doors of Hell must have cracked open in front of your eyes when you saw what the frisket did to your exacting paint job!!!! A relief that is was salvageable!!! Almost finished then. JR Hi Jean, Yes there was a bit of a moment when the masking came off, and I was tempted to test the aerodynamic qualities of a plastic F-5B minus its canopies. But the Britmodeller massive came to the rescue and provided a solution. It amazes me how knowledgeable people are on here, that said I would have liked to have been there in person for that 'light-bulb moment' when someone decided to try WD40 to remove sticky patches from paintwork. And the cause of this calamity? Well, on further investigation I've put that down to my own stupidity in the end. The Frisket quite clearly states that heat can affect the glue and yet, there was I merrily drying the paint over the top of a radiator. Solution. ALWAYS READ THE INSTRUCTIONS........ oh yes, and how many of us do that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Decals are on and the one advantage of spraying the red details has been that there aren't too many. I've also painted the undercarriage and airbrake bays and after looking through the Turkish Stars reference photo's decided to go with grey. However, after looking for more photographs of the aircraft in question on Airliners.net earlier today, it appears as though they should be an aluminium colour, so it now looks like I will have to repaint those along with the main undercarriage legs and the nose leg which looks to be white. I also have to make a couple of aerials that are quite prominent, one for under the nose and the other on top of the spine. That should just about wrap things up for this build and I can't say that I won't be sorry to see this one finished. Construction went well but from starting to paint I seem to have had one problem after another, most of them being of my own making. The latest resulted in some paint creep on the inside of the canopies which led to me having to sand and polish it out - not brilliant but at least now they are passable. Anyway, I hope to get it finished soon and thanks for stopping by. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Wow very nice on the eye, glad you have overcome the paint problems, should be brilliant and different when done! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I agree a very eye catching scheme! After all the troubles you've had with the paint job, you've sorted them all out and she's looks amazing! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 This is where I'm at with this one. The seats are in and I have added the undercarriage plus a couple of the doors. I've also scratched the two aerials I spoke of in the previous post with the one under the nose requiring some red paint. Still lots to do, the pitot probe has to be made and painted, the remaining undercarriage doors have to go on, canopies to sort and a coat of varnish to seal everything in. Not sure whether to go with a gloss or satin varnish and any views would be gratefully received, my thinking being that this is a display aircraft so would be relatively clean and shiny, although I have found a shot of a very dirty 71-4017 here . Bang seats in Scratched aerials fitted. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Ooo that's looking amazing!!! That colour scheme is awesome...you so have to finish this one!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 13, 2016 Author Share Posted February 13, 2016 Cheers Rich. Doing my best to get it done bud, Just sprayed some red on the pitot and I will fit that at the end, brass tubing added for the smoke generator, three doors and the canopies to fit and then varnish. Oops almost forgot the lights on the wings and tailplane have to be painted too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 It is indeed a fantastic looking model, love all these additions, additions that are even more noteworthy considering how small a 1/72 F-5 model is. Regarding the finish, personally I'd go with a satin-gloss mix, less "toylike" than a fully gloss coat but shinier than a satin coat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 Looks fantastic John, a great finish and an eye catching scheme. Look forward to seeing her in the gallery. Craig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skids Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 That looks stunning, come on get it done and in the gallery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nimrod54 Posted February 14, 2016 Author Share Posted February 14, 2016 Thanks for your comments chaps, they are much appreciated. I finally wrapped this up mid-afternoon, I then took it outside to photograph but, having bumped into a brass monkey looking for a welder on they way outside, I just took a couple before returning to the warmth. Anyway, just to whet your appetite, here they are and I will get more in the gallery when I have sorted them out. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted February 14, 2016 Share Posted February 14, 2016 She looks fantastic John, well worth all the effort you put in. Very well done in getting her done on time. Craig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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