reheat Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 See here on the wing, part 6 frame B.Anyone else had this problem? http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/fastwalker1/IMG_5140.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/fastwalker1/IMG_5139.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Looks like a short shot, fixable but not good. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Flyer Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 See here on the wing, part 6 frame B.Anyone else had this problem? [imhttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/fastwalker1/IMG_5140.jpg[/] [urlhttp://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/fastwalker1/IMG_5139.jpg][im://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg58/fastwalker1/IMG_5139.jpg[/ig][/url] Not on this kit. I did buy a Typhoon where the wing wasn't fully formed. Luckily it was bought from a shop and I took it back to exchange for another Typhoon - that one was okay. This was over a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 If you have not started the kit yet, take it back to retailer and ask for another kit or your refund, If started contact Airfix and tell them about the problem and request for replacement part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 Yup but on the leading edge and a little bit on the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniperUK Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 A couple of small sink marks on the top decking of the starboard fuselage but no other problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 After a very careful check, same as SniperUK, just the sink marks which do not impinge on any detail and will be dealt with when sorting fuselage join out. I t all does seem a bit of a lottery with Airfix. Their toolmaking seems ok, but there is clearly an issue with manufacture that needs sorting out. I still think the polystyrene that is being used needs looking at. Perhaps it is time for Airfix to send some one out to India to look at what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reheat Posted October 26, 2015 Author Share Posted October 26, 2015 As Dan says, fixable. Easy enough when the other half is in place,but ill check more carefully before starting my next Shackleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfighter Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Good old Airfix . . . A brand new kit with moulding problems again. Do you think they'll ever produce a kit that doesn't have "Issues " ? The best thing about Airfix kits now seems to be the box art and the decals . . . Rant over, I'll get me coat ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver66 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Would rather pay a few pounds more and not get these manufacturing issues or the rather odd plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I wish the Mach2 kits I'm building only had that issue, I bet the rest of the kit fits together 110%... this should come under 'basic modelling skills' surely? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Perhaps I have just been lucky but I have bought a large number of Airfix's new releases and not been able to spot a problem with any of them. Martin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuartp Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Radleigh, on 27 Oct 2015 - 3:15 PM, said:this should come under 'basic modelling skills' surely? It should, but it should also come under 'basic quality control' too. It's a lot easier to spot than minor warping or scuff marks on the glazing, I could understand them missing those. There's a pic on the other Shack thread of half an engine nacelle missing. I fix them same as you do, but if they carry on like this they're going to get a wider reputation for poor quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpowder17 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Basic modelling skills or not , you should get a kit thats 100% complete. Edited October 27, 2015 by gunpowder17 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver66 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think mass produced kits should be off a certain consistent quality, I think Airfix are starting to dig a hole for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I've been a great fan of Airfix for as long as I can remember but this is utter rubbish quality control They need to address this with urgency, somebody is being paid to produce kits to a standard and it just isnt happening if this state of affairs carries on I'll still buy them but they will always get rubbish thrown back at them Edited October 27, 2015 by perdu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I have to say I've bought quite a few of the new Airfix kits in the last few years and have not had any problems. Maybe it's time to play the lottery. Still, when I (finally) receive my Shackleton, I hope it doesn't have any problems like that. The sink marks on the fuselage are no big deal, but the short shots are rather troubling. I think somebody does need to take a look under the bonnet before they send the kits off. Regards, Jason Edited October 27, 2015 by Learstang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomW Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just the sink marks on the starboard fuselage and the port nose tip had broken (the bit above the nav window) - nothing that a little basic modelling can't cure. I've waited too long for an accurate Shack MR.2 to care about minor issues frankly. Regards Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 QA and QC need a talking to by the looks of things. Someone's not looked at the sprue before bagging it, or decided to pass the problem on to the punter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasman71 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Aside from General QC, I wonder if this is down to them rushing the Shack out in order to pip Revell to the post? If you think about it, the Swift was finally available in the UK many months after it is was scheduled to be, because of a mould flaw, something I didn't personally see but heard many tales of from our American friends as they had a shipment before we in the uk did. Obviously that flaw was bad enough for airfix to deem it necessary to redo the mould for that sprue, rather than shrugging corporate shoulders and saying damn the torpedoes and selling it as it was. I haven't checked my Shack since it first came, but will have a gaze through again when the Xtradecal sheets turn up (and I spend next 12 months deciding which one to do!) I also hope that this doesn't become a regular occurrence: brand new-mould kit, we all tear into them to examine the goodies, cue more new posts about Commando mould flaws, Stuka mould flaws, or (the horror) big P-40 mould flaws. If it does, then airfix - or Hornby - will need badgering about the QC lest they suffer the ignominy of a bad rep, and every new kit release met with crossed fingers, or silent prayers, of a kit 100% fine, or pretty damned close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Puff Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 What Mike said. I suspect that Airfix wanted to get the Shackleton out ASAP, and rushed things - with the inevitable consequences. This seems to be becoming a habit - we've seen the problems with the canopies in the big Typhoon, the 1:72 Lightning and the Kate; I opened a C47 the other week and found a dirty great air bubble in the pilot's windscreen. The same kit also had the main spar missing - it was packed that way, because I saw that the part was missing before I opened the sealed plastic bag. This is one area where they DO need to lift their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heraldcoupe Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I doubt very much that Airfix are complacent about this, but most of us have had at least a few Airfix quality issues and waiting for a proper 'fix' is getting frustrating. I suspect the moulding company used by Airfix is simply not used to working to the quality standard we (or Airfix) expect. When you've made a substantial commitment to a single company producing your product, what do you actually do to improve their standards? I wonder if Airfix have direct people of their own on site to manage quality at source, or (more likely?) it's dealt with solely by the moulding companyr? The ultimate fix if all else fails is to go elsewhere for your mouldings. That of course is a major undertaking when you have your entire product line coming through a single subcontractor, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this happen. Whatever else Airfix have been doing to get quality straightened out doesn't seem to be working. Cheers, Bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cossack52 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 raises the question of whether it would be worthwhile returning production to the uk where there is probably a better culture of QC;they did it with the paint range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 raises the question of whether it would be worthwhile returning production to the uk where there is probably a better culture of QC;they did it with the paint range. And the paints got worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sten Ekedahl Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Yes there are small problems, such as sink marks - some of them rather big (e.g.Blenheim top wings over the flaps) - and faint mold lines in most canopies. However most of these can be either easily fixed or overlooked. Considering the current low prices of Airfix kits, I can live with this. But what I DON'T accept is the current total failure of their previously excellent spare part service! This year I have requested spare parts twice because of defects,. On both occations I promptly recieved an answer saying that these parts weren't currently available, but would be sent as soon as they became available. As of today I have been waiting in vain for a Defiant turret for eight months, and for a Blenheim IV canopy for three months. A couple of reminders have not even been answered.This is the biggest quality issue for Airfix right now! Edited October 28, 2015 by Sten Ekedahl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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