Mancunian airman Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I must be mad. Without trying it I would never know; I am rather hoping it gives the cockpit a better appearance . . . Square timber frame rearmost and tubular for the front section. It will all be constructed before painting and glued in place. Its my intention to have the cockpit window open so I will be placing 'a runner' at the top of each opening and on the fuselage wall so I can firmly secure the window itself. The white runners are just shown for positioning, I have yet to paint before fixing . . . Edited November 10, 2015 by Mancunian airman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 I have been looking at the undercarriage lever which is adjacent to the pilots seat, (R H side behind the Elevator trim control), I have seen it modelled but painted RED ? Does anybody have a good photo of it and a suggestion for a 'proper' colour ?? many thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I have been looking at the undercarriage lever which is adjacent to the pilots seat, (R H side behind the Elevator trim control), I have seen it modelled but painted RED ? Does anybody have a good photo of it and a suggestion for a 'proper' colour ?? many thanks have a look at the 360 degree I posted before http://www.pan3sixty.co.uk/portfolio/avro-lancaster-kb889-at-duxford/ Or, start a thread in the WWII section, or search for more pics of F-Freddie, as that is unrestored and there must be more shots of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 11, 2015 Author Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks again Troy Still not convinced that the U/G lever was Red, would that be a modern H&S thing for preserved aircraft ?? Just a bit of progress The grab-rail into the nose; I have seen B/W photos that do contrast but not bright enough to say for certain that it was yellow. I don't doubt some were but not all of them . . . Also painted up the holders of sorts adjacent to the pilots position, added a little detail onto his seat by the armour plate and also decided to create the Nav's working lamp over his desk . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Looking forwards to seeing more, be interested to see how that cockpit internal framing comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Thanks again Troy Still not convinced that the U/G lever was Red, would that be a modern H&S thing for preserved aircraft ?? Just a bit of progress The grab-rail into the nose; I have seen B/W photos that do contrast but not bright enough to say for certain that it was yellow. I don't doubt some were but not all of them . For a flying aircraft, maybe. For a static museum exhibit, no. From what I can see of F-Freddie, DV372, the colours look to be the same as the Duxford 360. Red is certainly used on the IP, some googling has not turned up a shot of that side of the cockpit, but plenty of others. eg and more http://flickrhivemind.net/Tags/dv372,lancaster/Interesting Note, regarding hand rails http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959603-lancaster-handrail-colour-the-lancasters-yellow-version-of-the-spitfires-red-crowbar/ Here is an interior shot of the IWM Lanc I took in July 2011. At the time it looked to me that it had been untouched in years Trevor But, ask in the WWII section, we have a fair few Lanc buffs here. eg Galgos, Miggers, who may well know. PS this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iua49gCA6A at 16.30 -17.30 there is some period colour film, probably post VE Day though, some inside, which maybe of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Looks great to me and I`ll be watching with interest,.....the rail in the BBMF Lanc is yellow but whether this is accurate for a wartime Lanc I`m not sure. Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I have gone with the majority . . . I have also had this purposely built recently to accommodate this and a second aircraft, yet to be built, the two 72nd scale just there to give an impression . . . there is some landscaping to do and also to populate with airfield 'furniture. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 This photo shows that the Wireless operators SQUARE window needs to be moved rearward and the red lines indicate roughly where. The thin black line shows the demarcation of the camouflage, top/bottom, and the Navigators OVAL window should be below this line . . . Ready for the drilling out . . . The original square window filled in . . . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Looking good and I like that table!! Cheers Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thom216 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Truly, a great display case. Envy ensues without restraint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 I have attempted to landscape the dispersal area with in the cabinet . . . I intend to have the cockpit window(s) open so I have put in the runner along the fuselage wall I am slowly progressing with the cockpit internal framing, a bit slow progress cos of living another life; when completed I will post pics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share Posted November 30, 2015 I have done a bit more since this photo was taken . . . I think I have realised that its not necessary to do the whole thing, as currently, one get the impression that there is some in there. I would perhaps next time use 20 thou rod. I am also constructing some 48th scale engine trestles to have along the dispersal, post some photos of them tomorrow showing their current (part) build. Must be mad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 1, 2015 Author Share Posted December 1, 2015 This is as far as I am going with the canopy framing . . . If I did it again I would use thinner rod and strips only because it would be easier to manipulate I think. As an extra for the diorama I am constructing some engine trestles . . . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 (edited) A bit of progress on the 48th engine trestles to compliment the Lancaster at dispersal . . . The taboo arms, in grey, for the mid-upper turret; needs a roller on the end of each to complete . . . Note the ONE ring of the frame around the middle of the turret Edited December 4, 2015 by Mancunian airman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somnas Posted December 4, 2015 Share Posted December 4, 2015 This was the first kit I built so it brings back a lot of memories. Very well done getting the nacelles to fit that well to the upper wing! The rest is also great of course but I remeber sanding and filling those seams over and over way to clear haha. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 6, 2015 Author Share Posted December 6, 2015 Thanks Erik I hope that when the fuselage halves come together they dont bring forth many issues. I am not always at home so cant give this build the regular attention it needs but I am slowly getting there. The engine trestles and another vehicle I am building alongside the Lancaster offer short-term builds that dont require the long term work of the Lancaster, ie. filling, filing etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 12, 2015 Author Share Posted December 12, 2015 Rather slow progress but been doing little jobs like the 'Taboo arms' on the mid-upper, bits of touch up painting and the two engine trestles . . . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody37 Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 Great progress. Really like those trestles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 As an extra for the diorama I am constructing some engine trestles . . . where did the engine trestles plans come from? are these made of rod and strip? What diameter rod did you use? great work, they look really good. cheers T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossington 2 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Also, what wheels did you use? They look like proper trolly-accy" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 (edited) Troy Plan is mine, drawn from measurements taken of two existing engine trestles 'found' at my local airfield. Measured in inches and converted to 48th scale. For the frame I used 30thou rod, square axle 40thou and planking sheeting 7m scale. Ossington I took a chance on these . . . I particularly like the fact that they are quite narrow http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-48th-scale-Gaz-pickup-replacement-wheels-and-tyres-ACE-model/321906133324?_trksid=p2060778.c100275.m3474&_trkparms=ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140813110652%26meid%3D9a08fc7c7fa346ad80d3c9451ee0c723%26pid%3D100275%26 Edited December 13, 2015 by Mancunian airman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olympic1911 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Perhaps you might want to paint them in RAF blue? Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mancunian airman Posted December 13, 2015 Author Share Posted December 13, 2015 I am totally unsure about the true colour, the examples I came across were Yellow. I find it hard to think that any were repainted in civilian life. On the film 'Night Bombers' I think they were green with a yellow top rail. (I have yet to build the top section on mine) RAF Blue seems unlikely unless anybody know definitely ?? I seem to remember in the early 70's when I was at West Raynham they were a military green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Troy Plan is mine, drawn from measurements taken of two existing engine trestles 'found' at my local airfield. Measured in inches and converted to 48th scale. For the frame I used 30thou rod, square axle 40thou and planking sheeting 7m scale. very interesting. I'm sure other members would be interested in the dimesions. Would you post a scan of the drawings with dimensions ? olympic1911, on 13 Dec 2015 - 6:09 PM, said: Perhaps you might want to paint them in RAF blue? Peter seems most RAF ground equipment during the war was camouflaged, or a camo colour. I am totally unsure about the true colour, the examples I came across were Yellow. I find it hard to think that any were repainted in civilian life. On the film 'Night Bombers' I think they were green with a yellow top rail. (I have yet to build the top section on mine) RAF Blue seems unlikely unless anybody know definitely ?? I seem to remember in the early 70's when I was at West Raynham they were a military green back on page 1... for a dio, here is a link to Etienne du Plessis Flickr of WW2 colour photos, this is the Lancs https://www.flickr.com/search/?w=8270787@N07&q=lancaster a wealth of detail with some useful colour guide as well eg in the link there's this green with yellow detail. Wonder why the hub is yellow? another shot in the link shows wooden trestles. Would be worth a look trough Etienne's Flickr at other bomber station shots for more examples. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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