gmsphoto Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hi i was wondering if anybody knew if the sea hurricanes in white in 1944 had sky undersides or did airfix and revell get it wrong? many thanks graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I did mine in sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveCromie Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Hi Graeme just my tuppence worth - the under surface colour for FAA aircraft wearing Temperate Sea Scheme (TSS) would normally be Sky and I think the white scheme was just an overpainting of the TSS. Now sit back and wait for someone who actually knows what they are talking about before comitting anything to an actual model! Cheers DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yes, the undersurfaces were still Sky. There is a photo of 'Nikki' that shows the white over-painting of the upper surfaces colours slightly wrapped around the leading edge of the wing, with the rest of the undersurfaces remaining much darker (in Sky). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyot Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) I read somewhere in a book by a squadron member (cannot remember the title off the top of my head) that they were supposed to be white as per the Swordfish and at least one of them was but they began to run out of paint so retained the Sky on at least some of the Sea Hurri`s? Whether they were finished off or not at a later date I`m not sure. Sea Hurri.NF698 7-D, had white undersides with black D-Day stripes applied when it had a deck landing accident in the hands of Sub. Lt. Gordon on 18.8.44 Cheers Tony Edited October 20, 2015 by tonyot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iang Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 You are right, Tony, NF698 7-D was white underneath. I'd forgotten about that photo. However, 'Nikki' was definitely Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 some previous discussions on these planes, all worth a read, with more photos in the links. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234963476-835-nas-sea-hurricane-nf-672-nicki-decals-question/ http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234967709-white-sea-hurricanes-with-d-day-stripes-again/ http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/62619-colour-of-the-all-white-sea-hurricanes/ a couple of relevant photos. this looks to be all white The famous Nicki photo referred to above. I've seen profile showing a red curving stripe on the nose, from the 'Nicki' in this photo which is in fact the detached oil spill ring come loose from round cowling. HTH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Graeme PM me asking this NF700 7-T I am building. I run the Scottish aviation SIG and I am pretty sure that they where at macranhanish in Feb 44. Would the hurris been white with sky then? My reply I don't know, if Macranhanish is a shore base, then they would probably have been in standard TSS. The white was a ship level modification, there is a quote about this in one of the linked threads. Note, in the linked article on 'Nicki' http://web.archive.org/web/20030202224021/http:/www.navismagazine.com/demo/nicki/story_of_nicki.htm Quote Even though camouflage was standardized under Admiralty rules, the suggestion of the Commander Flying, Edgar Bibby, DSO, that the Hurricanes be painted off-white met with universal approval amongst the fighter pilots. The Captain of Nairana, Captain Taylor, agreed with the argument that white, as opposed to regulation gray and blue, would hide the planes against the white of the clouds in the Atlantic but thought that Admiralty should be consulted and a formal request for the change should be made. Bibby, following the courage of his convictions, didn’t wait. One day the Hurricanes were gray and blue, the next day they were white: “…and their subsequent successes undoubtedly owed much to their camouflage, for on more than one occasion they were able to close right in on their target without being seen”. I get the impression the white overall was applied in early 1944. confirmed by this Quote NOTE According to Lt.Commander Allen Burgham: “NF 700 was the aircraft whose back I broke by hitting the rundown with the tail wheel on March 2, 1944. (SEE PHOTO BELOW) So overall white by beginning of March 1944. Anyone know more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Macrihanish was indeed an airfield, its ICAO was EGQJ. It was still in use when I was last there in 1988. Probably closed years ago by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Macrihanish is still in use: part of it is Campbeltown airport, the rest a business park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsphoto Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 They also where at abbotsinch which is now Glasgow airport in 17 April 44 for a month. So if I did a different code from 7_T as it crashed in march of the same year. Graeme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darby Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Macrihanish is still in use: part of it is Campbeltown airport, the rest a business park. Well I never! You live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 some previous discussions on these planes, all worth a read, with more photos in the links.... The famous Nicki photo referred to above. I've seen profile showing a red curving stripe on the nose, from the 'Nicki' in this photo which is in fact the detached oil spill ring come loose from round cowling. HTH There's a definitve demarcation line running along the whole wing undersurface a bit behind the leading edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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