yankeemodeller Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I think I'm ready for a build. My kit of choice won't be as lightning fast as a couple I have done, but should still move at a moderate clip. I could have chosen Italeri's 1/72 kit but wanted to try a zvezda kit as I have not done one in a while. I see that their confusing instructions have not improved since my last Zvezda kit. At least not with this kit. The colors may be accurate but the color callouts are not accurate as they give the lightest color of sand and assign it to the wrong area and so on. The only other problem I have found is that the box is to small and the main sprue does not fit without bowing it upward. I don't see any parts that are bent because of this, so we shall see. The decals look matte and thick. This is a pretty cool copter and I look forward to getting going on it. Here is a few pictures to look at as I will start looking at the cockpit. I'll be back with something to show later. Edited October 13, 2015 by yankeemodeller 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Subscribing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Check that there is a connection between the top swashplate and the top rotors to change blade pitch. IIRC, there aren't any con rods - or maybe that was the Italeri kit??? They are the short ones going down to the rotors at the top..... Ken Edited October 13, 2015 by Flankerman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'm up for this one! I think I would be inclined to give the transfers a couple of coats of Microscale Liquid Decal Film. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 What an interesting looking machine ive never seen before I'll be watching. I love zvezda kits they are the dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R159 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) We did the italiteri version of the Hokum, it came out ok, but don't do what I did.... Put the top set of rotors in the same direction as the bottom...doh! Decals silvered too. Edited October 13, 2015 by R159 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace From Outer Space Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 It's certainly an odd looking beast and is giving me beer goggles as I can't decide if it is ugly or beautiful... Cheers, good luck with the build mate, Viv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavDoc Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Working on the Italeri kit - interesting helo. Have looked at the Svezda version too- both have some inaccuracies, but a nice general outline -- I'm finding it helps to check out the Walkaround photos on the Internet. A notable feature of the Kamov- it's one of the few helos with an ejection seat. The rotors blow off, then the panel above the seat, and then the seat goes "bang"--- ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Zvezda K-37 ejection seat....... Note the white cylinder above the head box - that's the rocket that pulls the seat and occupant out. Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Ejection seats and rotary wing - not always a great mix. Does the system blow the blades off as part of the ejection sequence, or what? Think I'd rather trust my luck with auto-rotation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGKent Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 That decal is incorrect. It looks like this......This version - Ka-50SH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Ejection seats and rotary wing - not always a great mix. Does the system blow the blades off as part of the ejection sequence, or what? Yes it does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted October 16, 2015 Author Share Posted October 16, 2015 Thanks guys. Those are some great pics. The pictures of the cockpit that I find vary. A lot are typical cockpit colors, but some are painted in the typical Russian interior blue.Any help on which versions had the interrior blue would be helpful. Also, it's amazing how may different paint schemes there are. Seems like every bird got it's own scheme. That might be stretching it a bit but there sure seem to be lots of variations. I guess if I wanted it simple, I could have done an American F-16, where it's had pretty much one paint scheme in 40 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaker Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Ejection seats and rotary wing - not always a great mix. Does the system blow the blades off as part of the ejection sequence, or what? Think I'd rather trust my luck with auto-rotation. There's explosive charges in the root of the blade, blows them clear. I spent hours in DCS:Black Shark so I've always liked the -50. Real mean, odd looking thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flankerman Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I found another pic wot I took at MAKS 2013 showing the cockpit of a Ka-52 - the seat is covered up - but you can see the two angled nozzles of the rocket above/behind the seat. Note how the whole rocket is angled outwards - the starboard seat is presumably angled the opposite way to make the seat trajectories diverge. Ken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I love the exhaust on these, kinda mad max style... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted October 19, 2015 Author Share Posted October 19, 2015 Ok, guys, I have made a little progress. It seems my three teenagers don't like Ka50s, but they like all kinds of other stuff which is where I spend a lot of time lately. I've started the cockpit. It is rather sparse but that's ok too. Maybe I can keep moving. I went with some photos I found online that show cockpit walls and ceiling with a light gray, and panels and instrument area a interior blue green which Model Master seems to have a good example of. I dipped the clear windshield pieces in Pledge acrylic floor finish. It used to be called "Future". It makes the pieces very shiny and translucent to help show more interior detail. I never leave a cockpit in the open position so I need the extra help in seeing the stuff inside. I also found out that if a clear piece is coated with this stuff that you can glue it on with super glue with no crazing or maring up of the plastic. If you make a painting mistake, it can be stripped with ammonia based products and re-dipped. After painting cockpit wall, I have decided that my gray was not light enough for the pictures I used as reference. I am also debating whether or not to hand brush paint the camouflage finish as masking this thing could be more challenging. Thanks for all the cool photos to help get me started. Here is a few photos, and I will get back to work soon on it. God bless you all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I will be working to finish the cockpit this weekend so should have an update soon. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I do like Russian helicopters, watching with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted October 23, 2015 Author Share Posted October 23, 2015 I do like Russian helicopters, watching with interest. I've never explored the Russian rotor scene, so I'm interested as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvy5 Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Ejection seats and rotary wing - not always a great mix. Does the system blow the blades off as part of the ejection sequence, or what? Think I'd rather trust my luck with auto-rotation. Russians did this with a fuse. The first step is blasted the rotor blades and then goes seat. Yankeemodeller Cockpit color would be blue-gray as the plane SU.I sat in the Ka-50 demonstrated the Russians at our base in Kuchyna AB,Slovakia in 1996.I photographed the details, but black and white. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGKent Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Wrong color cockpit, John. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Wrong color cockpit, John. Thanks IGKent for the photo and info. Regardless of correct color, the damage is done as the cockpit is all together and I will post pics soon. When I did some research, I found two different pics with the blue/green color and they were labeled as ka-50. Others were more black. I certainly don't know much about these. Maybe the pics I have represent a copter from a different country or a different version of the ka-50. Either way, thanks for the heads up. I could not upload image to this forum to show my reference, but if you go to www.airliners.net, and type in ka-50, maybe you can see where I got the idea. Thanks again for the input. Edited October 24, 2015 by yankeemodeller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted October 24, 2015 Author Share Posted October 24, 2015 Ok, I got the cockpit painted and assembled. Everything went together as expected with no problems. The main instrument panel was a little tricky to fit in place as it has to be put in after the assembly of the forward fuselage. I think as a whole helicopter kits are somewhat more challenging than aircraft. Little more complex, and harder to mask for airbrushing. Do you guys feel the same way or is it just me? I like to do one ever so often to have a change of pace. Anyway, here's the latest pics, enjoy. Till next time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Nice work! No, I don't think its just you who feels helicopter kits are a bit more challenging to build. I find they do need a lot more forward planning than your average aircraft kit, almost akin to biplanes in a way. Then, of course there are usually more areas of highly visible detail to consider as well. Hang on in there you will be fine! Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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