perdu Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hmm, yellow and black stripes first I think, then blue dots on aniseed jelly No, not the paint job, the Allsorts of first choice tonight Having the nerve to hack these halves apart, THAT is the kind of nerve - skill - ability that sets you vacformers apart from ordinary oiks like me I wonder what plans you have got that specifically cover Spey powered Phantoms in big man's scale? Are you having to adapt and overcome re-scaling littler paperwork? (Silly me, didn't you show some plans earlier, I'm off back to recap) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 Hmm, yellow and black stripes first I think, then blue dots on aniseed jelly No, not the paint job, the Allsorts of first choice tonight Having the nerve to hack these halves apart, THAT is the kind of nerve - skill - ability that sets you vacformers apart from ordinary oiks like me I wonder what plans you have got that specifically cover Spey powered Phantoms in big man's scale? Are you having to adapt and overcome re-scaling littler paperwork? (Silly me, didn't you show some plans earlier, I'm off back to recap) I have numerous diagrams and plans to work from, so all being well I'll be able to recreate a reasonable representation of a Spey Phantom, but only time will tell... Speaking of which, I've come across a quite major accuracy problem tonight... but more on that in the next update. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Speaking of which, I've come across a quite major accuracy problem tonight... but more on that in the next update. Tom The kit represents a J79 powered version? I know, I know, me coat is by the door. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 The kit represents a J79 powered version? I know, I know, me coat is by the door. Trevor Unfortunately, that fact looks like the least of my worries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Now I am going to sit back (with a couple of black and white tubey ones) and laugh Tom wrote "I've come across a quite major accuracy problem tonight..." Yerss, so what? We've just seen you invent a C-17 from the hole in the air the vac formed kit didn't quite occupy This'll be epic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL-10 Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 OH YEAH! This is going to be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Just spent some time on the Combat site.... Me too. Bonkers. 1/48 Super Connie...? Must. Resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Nothing better than to see vaced plastic under the knife... Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Good start and it certainly has the unmistakeable look of a Phantom. This is going to turn into something rather special I feel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Me too. Bonkers. 1/48 Super Connie...? Must. Resist. It's like being a kid in a sheet shop on their site (link below) http://combatmodels.us/ I've often contemplated getting the 1/32nd B-26 Marauder, but chances are as soon as I bite the bullet HK will announce one! Radders - there's a 1/48th Savage, too - what are you waiting for!? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace From Outer Space Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 1/32 SR71. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
general melchett Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hi Tom, congrats on the new arrival btw....Well this looks like a lot of fun, be interesting to see how you get on with it, (Trailblazing the way and all that).... I can see there's going to be a LOT of scratch-building needed with this one, so I'll stock up with plenty of sheet/rod/metal/strip,etc at Telford ! I also have a huge pile of spare resin off-cuts courtesy of Robvulcan so I can see these being used for a lot of it. With regard to schemes the plan is to go for an early DG/DSG over White scheme or as I mentioned to you I might still go for a mid seventies Bruggen aircraft as I have rather fond memories. Just need to sort out the lighting kit and sound-board with the chaps and it should prove to be an interesting if rather protracted project....look forward to picking it up at SMW, (if you've received it by then of course !).....look forward to progress. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Radders - there's a 1/48th Savage, too - what are you waiting for!? Tom Money mate, but once my wedding is out the way (Dec), I shall be ordering a few bits - 1/48th C-46 Commando, Savage, C-119, PB4Y-2 Privateer, P2V Neptune, 1/32nd He-177, A-20 Havoc, want the B-26 Marauder but like you I reckon it'll be out soon in IM.. Anyway, back to a 1/24th F-4.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace From Outer Space Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Hey Radleigh, we got married in December too, just under four years ago. December weddings are the best! Cheers Viv Edited October 13, 2015 by Ace From Outer Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 December for us too, 1970... Sorry for the highjack. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Oh well if it's to be wedding bells time, Dec 12 '66. just saying... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hmm, I'm a January divorcée. 2001 or so. Can we get back the the big Phantom now? Please. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace From Outer Space Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Oops, yes, sorry for the inadvertent derailment Tom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvulcan Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Looks amazing mate. The modelling equivalent of climbing Everest by the looks of it ! Can't wait to see this finished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomprobert Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 Oops, yes, sorry for the inadvertent derailment Tom... No worries... it made for interesting reading! I've been busy making a start on the nose section the last couple of evenings, and unfortunately have already run into some quite serious problems. Those who've followed my builds in the past will know I'm not a stickler for accuracy, but I at least like to try and get a reasonable representation of the real aircraft. This nose section, unfortunately wasn't playing ball on this occasion... With the nose rubbed down properly and placed on the plans, an immediate couple of problems became very clear: 1) The nose section is too deep - approx two scale feet. At first I wondered if the plans were out, so measured the Combat parts against the Hasegawa 1/48th kit, and it turns out the plans were spot on: IMG_3642 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr 2) The lower nose of the real aircraft has a pronounced dip where the radome joins the airframe, just forward of the nose wheel bay - the Combat kit doesn't: IMG_3643 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr The first task was to reduce the depth of the nose - I placed two strips of tape along its length and removed the area in between. This was made slightly narrower than it needed to be, as it's far easier to sand the excess off than try to add plastic if I'd have cut it in the wrong place: IMG_3645 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr IMG_3647 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr These sections were then re-joined, which now gave the nose the correct depth. The short nose cone for the FGR1/2 was then dry-fitted, but the problem with the droop is still apparent: IMG_3649 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr My initial plan was build this up with card inserts and filler... IMG_3650 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr But then an idea struck me - could the other, longer, nose cone for the F-4E be made to work? IMG_3658 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr The answer was a resounding 'yes', so I sliced the front off of the nose section, and have grafted on the F-4E nose. Now, it follows the correct profile of the real thing perfectly: IMG_3661 by Thomas Probert, on Flickr It's been a lot of work to get to this stage already, but now I'm happy with the shape of the nose I can get on with blending everything in... happy days! Until next time, Tom 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Excellent demonstration of cooly effective problem solving Tom. How far back along the fuselage does the depth issue go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Love the lateral thinking with regard to the nose profile Gondor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 See? Told you this man uses the spaces that aren't even moulded to produce wonders That ain't problem solving Tom, that is problem pulverising I do love that very sexy profile where the nose dips down, you really have nailed it Tonight will be pink AND yellow coconut rings The odd can of Carling too, a dearth of Stella chez perdu this evening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The more that I see of these vacform kits, the more that they seem to appeal to my OCD and with a 1/48 Sanger-Contrail Whitley Mk.V and a Dynavector Gannet, hiding in the stash, I may just have to take the plunge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Umm.. Ignore me, I'm a grumpy old curmudgeon, and not in favour of marrying anyone, ever. Great work on the nose Tom, that dip is part of the Phantom's look, and unless it's there, things don't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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