VMA131Marine Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 - Italy: Italeri have produced some, though not many, Italian subjects. Don't think Revell Germany have yet produced a G-91 which their own Air Force operated. An earlier post of mine that an Airfix Fiat CR42 might appear as part of the Battle of Britain line-up was dismissed as unlikely. Revell produced a new tool Fiat G.91, in German markings, in 1999 http://www.scalemates.com/kits/103039-revell-04370-fiat-g-91-r-3-gina reissued in Portugese Tiger Meet markings in 2002 http://www.scalemates.com/kits/103828-revell-04635-g-91-tiger-meet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max223 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 1/72 : Spitfire XII Grumman F7F Fairey Firefly Bristol Beafort PC-6 Porter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Based on current toolingsCanberra Mk2/6 Yes please to Canberra B.2/6 but please let it NOT be based on current toolings: in the cool light of day some of the early Hornby era Airfix offerings are embarrassingly bad now the novelty value of Airfix issuing anything new has dissipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMA131Marine Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Yes please to Canberra B.2/6 but please let it NOT be based on current toolings: in the cool light of day some of the early Hornby era Airfix offerings are embarrassingly bad now the novelty value of Airfix issuing anything new has dissipated. The Canberra's are not up to current Airfix standards, but I would not call them embarrassingly bad either. There are simple things that can be done to make them look better, like filling in the spurious horizontal lines on the rudder. OTOH, the Bf 109G and MiG-15 are definitely bad and the differences are obvious if you put them next to better kits of those subjects like the Fine Molds Bf 109G's and the Eduard MiG-15s. The Airfix 1/72 Spit IX has a reasonably good shape but wide panel lines, no cockpit detail to speak of and is generally simplified everywhere. It was an improvement on the kit it replaced but will not fare well in comparison to the upcoming Eduard late Merlin Spits. The 1/72 Spit XIX is contemporary with the IX but is considerably better.The F-86 came out around the same time as the MiG and is a much better representation of the real aircraft than the MiG kit. The other ones that are real question marks for me are the Bf 110's (not comparable to the Eduard kits but much better than the kit they replaced) and the Sea Harriers (FRS.1 and FA.2). That the SHARs were disappointing is reflected in the fact that there is no common tooling between them and the later GR.1/GR.3 which are superb except for the GR.3 having the wrong fin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Agree that the Canberras perhaps don't come into the embarrassingly bad category but they are way, way below Airfix's current standards. The turkeys I had in mind are the MiG-15, Bf 109G, Sea Harriers and Hurricane IIc. A lot of the others are okay but in retrospect missed opportunities. The Eduard Bf 110s wipe the floor with the Airfix ones, especially since the Weekend Editions can be bought for less than the Airfix ones. Still I suppose these early offerings provided Hornby with the revenue and market confidence to work up to the standards and release tempo they have now reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) These are my guesses are... not necessarily what I would want although some of them I definitely would. (no idea about how likely or imminent) Phantom FG1/FGR2 1/72 Hunter F6/FGA9 1/72 Some sort of Venom 1/48 (darn, want 1/72) Me262 1/72 Hellcat 1/72 Scimitar 1/48 (boo, want 1/72 too!) Vampire 1/48 Wellington 1/72 Spitfire VIII/IX 1/48 Victor 1/72 (Biiiiiiiiiig maybe, actually I don't think likely but really want them to) Merlin HMA2 1/48 Lynx Wildcat 1/48 Lightning II (or III!) F35B 1/72 Edited October 8, 2015 by Meatbox8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Oh, forgot... Seaking AEW 1/72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirageiv Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) I think many 1/72 jet models need some updating, a lot of popular cold war/modern jets still rely on old and outdated kits, sometimes with a lot of aftermarket to bring them up. I think the 1/48 jet market has had a huge improvement over the last 5 or 6 years, so many new tools that on average are well done, us 1/72 jet guys need some attention now! A few realistic options may be: Agree on some T4/T5 Lightnings, think they would sell by the shedload. A new 1/72 Sepecat Jaguar series Mirage IIIE/V etc.. series, the PJ kits just look like diecast models with those panel lines imho. Spey F-4 series Unrealistic but what I wish would happen: Saab Viggen series Probably never would happen, but a cooperation with what is left of Heller to bring a new Mirage 2000 series, these I believe would fly off the shelves if they are done well. F-111 series (yeah right ) I'm actually thinking of jumping up scales for some of these models as I have waited years now already for decent, readably available examples of these kits to come into fruition and it still has not happened and I do not think I'm alone on a few of them. Much of the new 1/72 market to me ATM seems just always another slightly different version of some WWII plane that already has 10 toolings, 1000000 aftermarket conversions and 1000000000 decal options to make any version you need. I get why it is like that so far but I think some of the suggestions I listed could, if done right, be very profitable. Mainly, as from what I see there is a strong demand and the competition is either very hard to find, rubbish or a combination of both. Sorry for the semi-rant but could you honestly say you wouldn't buy a well done new tool Viggen kitted out with the great new Airfix decals? Sure a Hasegawa new tool would probably be the man-vegetables but at what price? Edited October 8, 2015 by mirageiv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Flyer Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Most of the suggestions made appear possibly "realistic", timescales would be harder to predict. For instance if Airfix announced Hellcat, Me262 and Hunter in the near future then I wouldn't be surprised but I can't say yes Airfix will definitely do it. Wellington has been mentioned a lot and I kinda agree it does seem to be a model that could be announced in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 1/72 Yak-9!!! Okay, now that I've got that off my chest, I'd expect, in no particular order, and all 1/72: Metal-winged Hurricane Spitfire Mk XIV Spey Phantom P-47 Fairey Battle Eventually a Hampden and a Whirlwind fighter; maybe a FW-190D-9. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Please, Airfix, just give us a new tool Spitfire F.XIV with alternate gun blisters for C or E wing and an alternate low back fuselage for the later version. And please, full span? Clipped should be a cut off option, not add full span tips. That's all I really want, but a DH Hornet F3 or two stage Merlin Mosquito would be just fantastic! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Please, Airfix, just give us a new tool Spitfire F.XIV with alternate gun blisters for C or E wing and an alternate low back fuselage for the later version. And please, full span? Clipped should be a cut off option, not add full span tips. That's all I really want, but a DH Hornet F3 or two stage Merlin Mosquito would be just fantastic! You don't say which scale! Good luck with the Hornet: do you know where they can obtain reliable engineering drawings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPESTMK5 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 You don't say which scale! Good luck with the Hornet: do you know where they can obtain reliable engineering drawings? Spit XIV in 1/72 of course ... Patrice 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vppelt68 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 All in the true 1:72 scale of course: Bristol Beaufort Yakovlev Yak-9 Curtiss P-40F Hawker Hurricane II A/B Bell P-39Q Airacobra My god, they are all Allied subjects, and except the Beaufort have all been previously produced by Airfix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_B Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Please, Airfix, just give us a new tool Spitfire F.XIV with alternate gun blisters for C or E wing and an alternate low back fuselage for the later version. And please, full span? Clipped should be a cut off option, not add full span tips. That's all I really want, but a DH Hornet F3 or two stage Merlin Mosquito would be just fantastic! What no Seafire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff_B Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 As to new releases all 72nd Alternative boxings of the new range:- (We already have He-111 H and Kate B5N1) Grumman Martlet Beaufighter TFX with Radar and Fin fillet Whitley MPA Shackleton AEW2 Sea King HAR3 (Wish they would do a proper RN pinger, but expact RAF one) New Kits:- Phantom FG1/FGR2 Buccaneer (complement to Phantom in both FAA/RAF service, although they may be tempted to go with 48th first to replace ruined tool) Skua (maybe using data from Norway ) Ju-88A (complete BoB range using data from Norway as per He-111) Victor/Vulcan - Complete V-Force, may redo Vulcan first due to retirement of 558 Possible RAF cold war ground set or maybe even V-force support set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanC Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 It's the 75th Anniversary of Operation Barbarossa next year, so expect a dogfight double set containing the He 111 and an all new Polikarpov I-16! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranciscoPRG Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Well, my list is partly wish and partly real possibilities. Here we go (all in 1/48th):Near- Hurricane Mk II- Spitfire Mk XIV - Spitfire Mk XVIII- Spitfire F.Mk 21- DH Chipmunk- Bristol Blenheim familyIntermediate- DH Vampire family- Supermarine Scimitar- Hawker Hunter family- Gloster Meteor Family- Hawker Fury/Demon- Shorts TucanoFar- Blackburn Firebrand TF.5- Blackburn Buccaneer- HP Hampden- Fairey Battle- Hawker Tempest Mk V Edited January 7, 2016 by FranciscoPRG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungo1974 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Boring middle of the road stuff for me thanks. Types screwed up by others Spitfire XIV and XVIII Tempest V/VI Tempest II Sea Fury FB.II DH. Hornet Bristol Brigand All in 1/48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Flyer Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 Good luck with the Hornet: do you know where they can obtain reliable engineering drawings? Not liking the sound of that as it's on my wishlist. Does that mean no DH Hornet kits have ever been produced and it's because of no drawings? Or can it be produced and Airfix doesn't want to make one as it wouldn't be accurate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranciscoPRG Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Not liking the sound of that as it's on my wishlist. Does that mean no DH Hornet kits have ever been produced and it's because of no drawings? Or can it be produced and Airfix doesn't want to make one as it wouldn't be accurate? There were Hornets in 1/48 by Classic Airframes and now by Trumpeter. If I am not wrong, in 72th there was the old Frog and some eastern Europe producer. All this without measuring an original, since there was none left. Edited October 9, 2015 by FranciscoPRG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREG DESTEC Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 A decent Fairy Firefly to replace the old, and from what i've seen expensive, tooling in 1/72 or 1/48 would be good. 1/72 Hampden would be nice too, although i don't know if there are any whole airframes in existance to "copy"?? 1/72 Lysander needs to be done, and maybe a Westerland Whirlwind in 1/72. Beaufighter with Merlin engines is a real possibility in 1/72 or some of the early Mustang family... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight_Flyer Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 There were Hornets in 1/48 by Classic Airframes and now by Trumpeter. If I am not wrong, in 72th there was the old Frog and some eastern Europe producer. All this without measuring an original, since there was none left. Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was starting to think of your latter statement - production of a kit without the original or reliable drawings. I'll take a look at the 1/48 kits mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ththtttu7 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 I have full 3D reference data for a DH Hornet, and many large original parts to scan too. The best of the kit released so far is the Classic Airframes one, but this still contains a few errors. 7mm too short and the u/c out of position by a similar amount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted October 9, 2015 Share Posted October 9, 2015 (edited) Right....five pages of speculation and everyone's wish list. Not a single mention of the JP3/3a. Does that mean that Britmodeller is NOT the centre of the modelling universe after all?? i'll get me coat.... Edited October 9, 2015 by Bill Clark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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