datguy Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I promised Edgar that I would post my build here after he shared his Supermarine factory drawing information on the Spitfire PR.XIII that hints at Sea Grey Medium and Dark Green as the proper colors. I did my best to match the underside PRU Mauve to the Munsell matches quoted elsewhere in these forums. I hope you enjoy! - David PS: I still have to mix up another batch of Mauve for the pitot... 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Nice work on an unusual variant of the Spitfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevej60 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 Like it a lot David,great job on a rarely seen Mk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 That's very nice, like that a lot! Any chance you could share your mix for the mauve, I've tried a couple of times, but haven't got a shade I'm happy with - yours looks good! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhutchi Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 That looks great. Which kit/conversion have you used please? Any WIP pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasermonkey Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 That looks gorgeous! More pics please! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datguy Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Any chance you could share your mix for the mauve, I've tried a couple of times, but haven't got a shade I'm happy with - yours looks good! I don't have the exact mix, but I started with Xtracolur PRU Mauve (about 4 parts), then added Humbrol matt white until it got to the saturation I wanted (about 15 parts), but it was too blue, so I added about 2 or 3 parts Testors matt red (square jar). I was looking to get to Munsell 2.5P4/6 or something a little lighter. see http://www.myperfectcolor.com/en/color/99641_Munsell-2.5p-46 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datguy Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) That looks great. Which kit/conversion have you used please? The kit is the Tamiya 1/72 Mk.I. I drilled out camera ports. but used no conversion parts apart from a vacuform blister-style canopy hood. The windscreen and aft windows are the original kit parts separated with a fine razor saw.. Upper surface colors are Lifecolor Sea Grey Medium, and Tamiya Dark Green. The Mauve is mixed from Xtracolour PRU Mauve as noted above. Decals are from the scrap box (with the Circle-P's being donated by a friend). I custom printed the 'L1004' serial on Testors decal paper. Edited September 28, 2015 by datguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Now that's one I haven't seen before - excellent job on an obscure Spitfire! Were there any Spitfires that were painted that mauve colour overall? Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datguy Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Now that's one I haven't seen before - excellent job on an obscure Spitfire! Were there any Spitfires that were painted that mauve colour overall? None on record. Whether any were actually painted Mauve on the underside is controversial enough! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beard Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 That's really smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsprop Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Interesting one this! Very good job you made of it too Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildeSau75 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Very nice build of a not that often seen variant. Cheers, Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Pity about none of the PR Spitfires being painted overall mauve. I have three recce Spits I plan on doing in the PRU pink (PR.1G, FR.IXc, and a PR.X) - a mauve one would have looked great next to them. I recall seeing some recce Spitfires that were represented, in drawings anyway, as being a terra cotta colour - do you know if there's anything to that? By the way, shouldn't this be an FR - it has the guns, or did the RAF not make the distinction at the time? Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I don't have the exact mix, but I started with Xtracolur PRU Mauve (about 4 parts), then added Humbrol matt white until it got to the saturation I wanted (about 15 parts), but it was too blue, so I added about 2 or 3 parts Testors matt red (square jar). I was looking to get to Munsell 2.5P4/6 or something a little lighter. see http://www.myperfectcolor.com/en/color/99641_Munsell-2.5p-46 Many thanks, for some reason I'd completely missed that xtracolour do pru mauve!I've been messing about with various red/blue mixes, not that successfully! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-32 Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Very nicely done, I've never seen that one before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 I promised Edgar that I would post my build here after he shared his Supermarine factory drawing information on the Spitfire PR.XIII that hints at Sea Grey Medium and Dark Green as the proper colors. I did my best to match the underside PRU Mauve to the Munsell matches quoted elsewhere in these forums. I hope you enjoy! - David PS: I still have to mix up another batch of Mauve for the pitot... very neat build, and the colours look good. a couple of points, The Tamiya kit has a wing representing an early Spitfire wing with protruding gun barrels, which were changed quite soon in service. the other is probably not fixable, but maybe of use, the angle of the undercarriage is different depending on what wing is fitted, being raked a bit further forward on the C and E wing. Yours look to hvae the correct angle for a C wing, but this is an A wing as the XIII's were based on earlier airframes. If you don't know this and just use any photo as a guide..... comparison pic of the Vb and Vc here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234966915-alley-cat-spitfire-mkvc-conversion-for-new-airfix-spit-mkvb-kit-148th-scale/#entry1729533 minor points aside, a great build and I've always found the Spitfire XIII an object of curiosity as there were so few, and so few photos, plus the possible PR Mauve undersides. Been discussed here a few times which maybe of interest http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/76346-the-elusive-spitfire-mk-xiii/ http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/34442-royal-navy-spitfire-prxiii-in-148th/ these two images taken later in naval training unit show why the use of the low PR scheme is thought to have been applied these two and another shot from the same unit, in what looks more standard camo, are the only known photos of the Spitfire XIII in service. hope of interest T 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 An extremely interesting scheme not least to the dark green spinner ... never seen that on any British WWII plane before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 By the way, shouldn't this be an FR - it has the guns, or did the RAF not make the distinction at the time? The Mk.XIII got in just under the wire when the role prefixes were being introduced. One of the contributing factors for the role prefix idea was the question of designations for Spitfire PR types (formerly "Spitfire PR Type G", etc) but unlike the previous variants, this one had a unique engine (Merlin 32) for Spitfires, and as it evolved, some other particular characteristics. Therefore, it was reasonable to give it its own Mark number. Philosophically, there had not previously been the distinction of "PR" vs. "FR", with the recon organization (PRU/PDU/etc etc) operating armed "dicers" when necessary, but with the emphasis still on performing the recon mission- the guns were just a bit of insurance! As the low-level "armed reconnaissance" style evolved, the ability to be aggressive (the "Fighter" part) became more valued in its own right, though the emphasis was still on bringing back the information, so getting yourself shot down in the process was frowned upon. bob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Learstang Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Thank you for the information, bob! Regards, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Oops, forgot to say, "Nice looking build!" (I was a little distracted) bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airjiml2 Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Great job David! After all these years of talking XIIs, you've actually finished yours. I feel very behind. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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