ANovaScotian Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hey all When Avro Canada were conducting flight trials of the CF-105 Arrow they were supplied with an RCAF F-86 Sabre and a CF-100 Canuck as camera chase planes. The following picture would have been taken from the CF-100 and clearly shows the Sabre. Unfortunately the rear of the aircraft is not visible in the picture. Does anyone know the identity of this Sabre? Serial Number? Squadron? Anything would be of help, as I would very much like to model this particular aircraft. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Larry Milberry's 'bible' on the Sabre lists 23440 as operated by Avro, however; That Sabre in your pic is 23544 of CEPE. It would carry the letters PX before the roundel. Fin flash instead of the tail ensign. page 61 of 'Avro Arrow' by The Boston mills Press has a slightly larger image of that particular pic, where one can make out the last two letters of the aircraft number. Tony Edited September 4, 2015 by Tony Edmundson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erewhon1872 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I wonder if it's possible to make RL201 and the two chase planes in 1/48th? It could make a nice, if very large, diorama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorth Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I wonder if it's possible to make RL201 and the two chase planes in 1/48th? It could make a nice, if very large, diorama! Provided you could get your hands on Hobbycraft's 1/48 CF-100, which I haven't seen one of in over a decade, it could be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Provided you could get your hands on Hobbycraft's 1/48 CF-100, which I haven't seen one of in over a decade, it could be done. I managed to pick one up from eBay not too many years ago, so they're not quite to hen's teeth rareness, but they will get there unless someone either does a new tooling, or re-pops the old one. You know which option I'd prefer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erewhon1872 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Provided you could get your hands on Hobbycraft's 1/48 CF-100, which I haven't seen one of in over a decade, it could be done. there was a chap in Germany selling a few not long ago on a certain auction website and I got one, can't remember though if it was a Mk. IV or Mk. V and which the first flight chase plane was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Provided you could get your hands on Hobbycraft's 1/48 CF-100, which I haven't seen one of in over a decade, it could be done. I landed one on ebay this year, mind you it came from USA so wasn't cheap with postage, then there's decals as the kit ones are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dambuster Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 The CF-100 chase for the first flight of RL201 was 18513, which I think is a Mark 5. Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dambuster Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Larry Milberry's 'bible' on the Sabre lists 23440 as operated by Avro, however; That Sabre in your pic is 23544 of CEPE. It would carry the letters PX before the roundel. Fin flash instead of the tail ensign. page 61 of 'Avro Arrow' by The Boston mills Press has a slightly larger image of that particular pic, where one can make out the last two letters of the aircraft number. Tony In Larry Milberry's bible it states on page 241 that 'Avro used a Sabre 6 (23744) as its prime chase plane during Arrow test flights'. This is also confirmed by an extract from Peter Cope's log book. Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I stand corrected, it is 23744. Thanks Peter !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I landed one on ebay this year, mind you it came from USA so wasn't cheap with postage, then there's decals as the kit ones are useless. Canuck Decals make replacement CF-100 decals. http://www.canuckmodels.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I already sourced the decals, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erewhon1872 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 does anyone have any pictures of the actual chase planes? I found this http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhc-2.com%2F23733_CL-13B_Gordon_Macadie_1280.jpg&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhc-2.com%2FGordon_Macadie.html&h=885&w=1280&tbnid=Tai_jpAYMjpRBM%3A&docid=BADyoNFEgO-mCM&ei=35XqVeWSFeGE7gaImL7YBQ&tbm=isch&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=808&page=1&start=0&ndsp=29&ved=0CCMQrQMwAWoVChMIpf786qvfxwIVYYLbCh0IjA9b has one CF-100 image and a lot of Canadair Sabres rather sadly awaiting scrapping at Prestwick in the 1960's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 page 88of the Boston Mills book on the Arrow has a pic with 23744 chasing 203, it is standard camo with only the number 744 aft of the roundel and on the tail is the Red Ensign. page 76 has a Sabre chasing 202, it has no fuselage number and the fin flash on the tail(serial number unreadable). Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Edmundson Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Larry Milberry's Canadas AirForce in War & Peace, Volume 3, page 217 has a pic of Arrow 204 at Trenton with CF-100 18513 alongside. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidWinter Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I managed to pick one up from eBay not too many years ago, so they're not quite to hen's teeth rareness, but they will get there unless someone either does a new tooling, or re-pops the old one. You know which option I'd prefer Yep, they show up on eBay and at model shows from time to time. The tooling for the HC kit was, apparently, destroyed long ago. And even if they could be used, there's, also apparently, an outstanding question of ownership. I've looked into it, no repops of those. Edited September 16, 2015 by DavidWinter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Craik Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 There is a p[hoto of sabre 23744 flying chase for Arrow 203 in the book ARROW by the Arrow Heads. Also a photo of CF-100 18513 flying chase for Arrow 201 in Milberrys CF-100 book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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