milktrip Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Hello, For this group build I'll try and build a Piasecki HUP 2 in service with 58S of the Aéronautique Navale. The Aéronautique Navale received 19 of them from 1953 and where in use until 1966. They saw service with 58S & 10S which were the first units to use the aircraft. I'll be kit bashing the Amodel & Mach 2 kits with decals from Model art. Both kits have their shortfalls; the Amodel kit shape looks very wrong (quite square) and the clear parts on the Mach 2 are, well... not very clear. There are also a lot of large ejector pin marks (see photos below). In addition, there are little to no engine details in the latter but the Amodel kit comes with a radial engine and some other details which should hopefully do the job. You can see below the the difference in the fuselage shape for the two kits (Amodel on the left) I'll be using the Mach 2 fuselage and although it does have some surface detail, I'll probably sand most of this off as I'll need to sand off the ejector pin marks anyway. here are some other photos of the Mach 2 fuselage. Looking forward to the start. Have fun and thanks for looking cheers Aaron 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Lokin' good Aaron.One that keeps winking at me from the stash. I'll follow your build with interest, see if it's worth my bother or not. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 Cheers Colin. I'm looking forward to this, although I think it will need some work. I found it interesting to learn that the HUP 2 was the first production helicopter equipped with auto-pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Looking forward to another masterpiece milktrip. No pressure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killingholme Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Wow, rather you than me! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I remeber reading about the auto-pilot but one of those facts that had got lost it time until you reminded me. Wounder how Amodel got the fus shape so wrong!!! It's the amount of work that the kit needs which was putting me off... Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 This sounds like an interesting challenge to watch, will keep a close eye on this build ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modelling minion Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Great choice Aaron, I do like the look of these early choppers. Interesting to see the difference between the fuselages on the 2 kits, the Amodel one couldn't be much more wrong in shape makes you wonder which plans they used, if any. I look forward to seeing your progress. Craig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Good choice, Look forward to seeing this done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 10, 2015 Author Share Posted September 10, 2015 Thank you folks. Back on dry land, from the night shift. Raring to go but look & feel like a zombie; need to change over before I start anything. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I just found this, popcorn at the ready. This looks like its going to be a great project. It will be interesting to see how this Piasecki machine compares to my H-21. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 11, 2015 Author Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thank you Nigel, I don't think this will be anywhere near as good or detailed as your flying Banana. As comparisons go, this is quite a small aircraft. I've not compared the kits but from memory I would say its close to half the length of the H-21 (not including rotors) *edit* okay, not half; maybe three quarters I've made a start but not much. My efforts for today / this evening can be seen below (photo is rather dark, tried some effects to brighten it up a bit) I've also sanded down the fuselage halves, increased the size of the forward windows (although I think they could be a tad bigger) and plugged the holes for the handholds/ steps with plastic rod. I will have to mould my own canopy as the mach 2 one is quite poor and the Amodel one is the wrong shape. Made a start on that last night but didn't work out. I have another idea on how to make the mould, so will see about starting that tomorrow. thanks for looking cheers Aaron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Those seats look pretty scrummy, nice work Aaron. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Agreed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 12, 2015 Author Share Posted September 12, 2015 Thank you both. A little bit more done on the interior this morning. For the seats in the cabin I think I will use some bits from my spares (Italeri wessex kit). For the grip on the cyclic I was going to use the grips from a Revell UH-1D kit. However, when trying to fit them, one went 'PING' and is nowhere to be found. I have a CMK interior kit for an Italeri Huey. (I've used most of it for an AB204 I'm currently building). The set comes with grips for the cyclic sticks; I thought the Italeri kit pieces were okay so never bothered using the bits from the CMK set. I'll use these for this build but will take extra precautions when handling... As for progress; Some brass tube of various diameters used to represent the Cyclic and collective sticks. I've still to add handles to the collectives and my intentions regards the grip of the cyclic are mentioned above. and a dry fit with the seats and instrument panel to make sure everything looks okay. Away out this afternoon, so not much chance to get anything else done today. Although I might get some time this evening. bye and thanks for looking cheers Aaron 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Hello I've glued the two 'formers' I made earlier (first picture post) to the front of each fuselage. These are quite a noticeable feature of the H-25 / HUP 2. I've also started to add a few more inside the cabin area, one side only so far ( I made add some more; I will see how they look when finished). I also added this part. It is quite fiddly and decided to fit it now, to one side of the fuselage, rather than when the two halves are together. Some filler thinned with glue also applied. I'm really sorry about this photo (well all of them really). You can't see much But this piece has seen some attention. There were some raised details but I sanded them off. drilled a hole and also used my trumpeter rivet tool to had some details. still some more to do on this piece, like the drive shaft; this is were it goes. Not much difference with the interior. However, the Italeri seats have been cut and glued. I still need to fit some legs on them though. Below is a dry fit of the interior parts. Heres a (blurry) photo of the front to show the formers I was on about and another with the interior piece in place. Looks rather cosy. I'm sure it wasn't!! thanks for looking cheers Aaron 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Nice detailing work Aaron, its looking good. I thought those seats look a bit low until I read they still need to have their legs added. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heloman1 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Coming along nicely Aaron. That intake splitter on the rear pylon looks a bit of a swine to sort out. I like the cabin interior, well done. Colin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thank you Nigel & Colin. oh yes Colin, it was awkward. I'm actually thinking of chopping the vertical part off and using a section of fettled plastic card instead. I'm not happy with the look of it if I'm honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hello again. This is quite a photo hungry post, apologies beforehand. Bit more done on the "rear rotor intake area bit" (I'm sure theres a better description than that). I've also moved from the kitchen table, back to my modelling room, hence the cutting mat in the photos. Finished adding the formers ( I think) to both fuselage halves. There are some further details to add though. Grips added to the cyclic controls, handles added to the collectives and yaw pedals made form brass rod. The latter are very basic but will do. I've used parts from a the whirlybits instrument panel sets (part 1 & 2) to liven up the IP for this build. The dial bezels are a bit wonky but should suffice. I Still have some more bits to add to the IP. Stuck some legs on the troop seats. Again, very basic but will do for this; they are probably still a bit low though. and all together In my original post I said this will be a kit bash of the Amodel and Mach 2 sets. To be honest, I don't think I'll be using much of the Amodel set (if anything). I'm still considering using the engine that they provide as it looks okay ( how correct, I don't know?). Here's part of the assembled amodel engine and now an insidey dry fit view a close up of the rear section showing the drive shaft. I said in my last post I was going to remove the top section. Since then I've thinned part of it down and may just use whats there but modify it slightly.. dry fit of the two fuselage pieces. and a zoomed in view of the cockpit thanks for looking, sorry for the mass of photos. cheers Aaron 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louiex2 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Excellent progress. Looking forward to following along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 It's getting pretty busy in there! You might want to check the position of the right hand cockpit seat, it looks to be leaning slightly in some of those photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milktrip Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Thank you guys. @Sarge. Don't worry about the seat, they are only held on with blu-tak at the moment. I'll be painting them separately, so haven't stuck the down yet. But thanks for noting as its something that can easily be missed and would be very annoying once the clear parts are glued on 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Heath Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The dial bezels are a bit wonky but should suffice. Indeed but they do look the part. Nice work all round really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt.Squarehead Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Have to admit, between you, you guys are making me want to build a chopper.....I've got a Fa.223 Drache (that I'm terrified of) and a Mi-4 in the stash and I'm really starting to want an H-34 quite badly! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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