Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Just out of interest: did you have information for the colour of the wheel bays? I know the restored ones have yellow zinc chromate, but I've also seen interior green and light aircraft grey suggested. I'm not suggesting for a second that you should change the colour, just collecting information for my next B-58 From the museum http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_soppet/b-58_walk_1.htm http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason3/b-58_dayton/ I have some photos of real aircrafts. Where do I send it to you? Edited September 25, 2015 by Seversky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Just out of interest: did you have information for the colour of the wheel bays? I know the restored ones have yellow zinc chromate, but I've also seen interior green and light aircraft grey suggested. I'm not suggesting for a second that you should change the colour, just collecting information for my next B-58 From the museum http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/mark_soppet/b-58_walk_1.htm http://www.primeportal.net/hangar/howard_mason3/b-58_dayton/ I have some photos of real aircrafts. Where do I send it to you? Slightly different perspective on colour of gear wells http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/b-58/b-58_walk.shtml Regards Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Slightly different perspective on colour of gear wells http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/b-58/b-58_walk.shtml Regards Alan I know. But it repainted gear wells. It is necessary to see photos of real combat aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 look at the color of the strut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 I know. But it repainted gear wells. It is necessary to see photos of real combat aircraft. The photo you show with the arrow appears to me, to be Zinc Chromate yellow. Have a look at this photo, it's original you can tell by the placard in the upper centre of the photo, not repainted http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/b-58/images/frouch_b-58_04.jpg Regards Alan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Food for thought, these pics seem to show all three options,possibly including white! From B-58.com: Now what colour is that? Yellow or light grey? This one (pic too big to post here) is definitely green. There are also a lot of B&W photos that seem to show lighter or darker colours in the wheel well doors. It would suggest that there were different colours in use across the fleet. It looks like there are more photos of the lighter colour than the dark, suggesting the chromate yellow was the more likely colour. From the post I linked above from Scott R Wilson, I disagree with him on the first pic - I think it's chromate yellow. But there you go! It's a mystery, and in the absence of a rock solid reference to an exact aircraft, any colour would seem to be right! Edited September 25, 2015 by Brokenedge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 The photo you show with the arrow appears to me, to be Zinc Chromate yellow. Have a look at this photo, it's original you can tell by the placard in the upper centre of the photo, not repainted http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/b-58/images/frouch_b-58_04.jpg Regards Alan Alan, have look another photo of the same nose gear well http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin4/b-58a_61-2080/images/b-58a_61-2080_18_of_51.jpg It is repainted. I think that Zinc Chromate yellow is looks different http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Acrylic/Model-Master/Yellow-Zinc-Chromate/Yellow-Zinc-Chromate.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) It's a mystery, and in the absence of a rock solid reference to an exact aircraft, any colour would seem to be right! Truly!!! One note . Look at the detail of the nose gear well to the left in the photo. http://randolphbrewercom.fatcow.com/b58/img/DickDirga12.jpg Its color is different from the yellow ladder on the right. I see that the beige color, distorted shadow. Maybe I'm wrong. I will not change anything. Sorry! Edited September 25, 2015 by Seversky 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Truly!!! I will not change anything. Sorry! Very good decision! I certainly don't want you to change anything! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Real color of the gear wells of Hustler is a very interesting question. But I'm afraid we'll never know the truth. For me more important to finish the project! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDSModeller Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 (edited) Alan, have look another photo of the same nose gear well http://data3.primeportal.net/hangar/luc_colin4/b-58a_61-2080/images/b-58a_61-2080_18_of_51.jpg It is repainted. I think that Zinc Chromate yellow is looks different http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Acrylic/Model-Master/Yellow-Zinc-Chromate/Yellow-Zinc-Chromate.html Not to drag this on or further hijack your build, two types of thoughts here: 1) Are you referring to a repaint as in post USAF service (part of restoration)? 2) Repaint during service? If number 1 then I would have to disagree, both colour photos posted by you and I show too much in the way of placards/stencils to (me anyway) be a quick paint job If 2, then possible with a caveat, look at this B/W photo, the front gear doors appear to be Zinc Chromate Yellow/Green (ZCY/ZCG) your "Beige" colour http://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth40367/m1/1/med_res/ The caveat is that both the ZCY/ZCG and Silver/Grey colours could existed in service at the same time. The USAF, during production could have changed from ZCY/G to Silver/Grey, or other way around, as mentioned above the gear well are too well (no pun intended) stencilled/ placard placed. The aircraft could have gone back to Convair for major maintenance. where they were repainted. Good luck with the rest of your build, I also have one of these kits I have some what started. No one is expecting you to change your build. My first post was more to help with the question posed by Brokenedge. Regards Alan Edited September 25, 2015 by LDSModeller 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 Dear Alan! I mean No.1 - repaint as in post USAF service (museum exhibit). Maybe I'm wrong. In any case, I thank you for the debate! In a dispute born truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 25, 2015 Author Share Posted September 25, 2015 A question about the color of the wheel wells there is not the first time. http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234971930-monogram-148-b-58-hustler-long-term-project/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 i think the colour is very nice as it is. its a good approximation of that found on the restoration at Wright Patterson, you should leave it be and move on. It's close enough and not worth the effort of re-doing, in my view. david 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Сontinue. TCP. Two component pod is made as a single component pod. This must be corrected! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) а primer... Edited October 2, 2015 by Seversky 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Flawless fella, really really nice finish you have achieved on the primer. Details are great, it's gong to be a stunner. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Great work, as for the wheel bays... they change colour quite a bit from the original colour, due to oil leakages, heat causing the paint to discolour etc... VC-10 wheel bays were painted white but often had a yellowly tinge colour to it.. not forgetting the millions of speckles of rubber welded to the surface, dirty water from a wet runway coming off a spinning wheel... the list goes on. Love the pods too... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Superb work with the re-scribing. You need to give a tutorial! Cheers, Bill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4u Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Really nice work on the pod looks so much better with the details and re-scribe. Guy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Best looking TCP i've seen so far. david Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David H Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) I neglected to mention that your scribing and fastener work on the TCP and engine nacelles is first-rate. The nacelles are kind of weird when viewed up close; some segments in the mid section seem to be made of a composite that appears semi-translucent, allowing the honeycomb structure behind it to show thru slightly. I used to have some good photos of this phenomenon. Perhaps someone else here knows what i'm talking about and has some photos. I knew the plane had a lot of bonded honeycomb in its structure but it shows up in some surprising places. david Edited October 3, 2015 by David H Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seversky Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 I apologize for the break! I finished another job http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234992483-lockheed-f-104g-starfighter-holland-1978-148-revellhasegawa/ Now came the turn of the main gear wells. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bentwaters81tfw Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why do I get the feeling they are going to look very different to that? I think you put more work into that tank than I did the whole model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F4u Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) I was thinking the same thing ! Be interesting to see what appears in what looks like rather bare bays. Glad to see you are back with this one. Guy Edited November 23, 2015 by F4u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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