Selwyn Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hi, Tempestfan. I have also seen WaKo as "Komponente"; and it is not "abteilung" as I quoted but "ausbildung" as you say. The "new" Airfix comes with some slabs molded into the outer ventral pylons; I wouldn't say they qualify. The old Harrier kit als came with four, intended for carrying "flares", and very indistinct in shape. If you are referring to twin store carriers, the ones Very rarely used on Harriers (I believe they were earmarked for war use only) are a different type to the tornado Twin store carrier. Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hi, Phantom BigStud I used Xtracrylics ANA 613. IMHO is just perfect. There is a Revell Gelboliv Which is nearly identical. Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westwind Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The retarders on the bombs pictured look like the US BSU-49. Yes, because they technically are. The french EU2 is a licence build of the Mk.82 that was produced and sold under their own brand and name by SAMP until they went bakrupt in 2011, hence the similar look Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hi Selwyn, Yep, I didn't mean they were used at all, much less on Tornadoes. I was just compiling the kits I remember to include carriers of sich a kind. The Revell kit acknowledges some difference in the ventral pylons, as the RAF box comes with some fairings to be added laterally which may well be intended to depict what you describe. Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canberra kid Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 John Good pictures of Flight test drill/Ballast rounds on LAU 7A launchers, Please don't paint your winders these colours on operational jets! Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Do Luftwaffe Tornados still use unguided free-fall bombs? I know that the RAF has gone to all guided munitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selwyn Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Do Luftwaffe Tornados still use unguided free-fall bombs? I know that the RAF has gone to all guided munitions. RAF have used FF 1000lb off typhoon (9th picture first page) http://www.cranfieldaerospace.com/sst/safety-suitability-gallery/?page=5& Selwyn Edited August 14, 2015 by Selwyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westwind Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) Do Luftwaffe Tornados still use unguided free-fall bombs? I know that the RAF has gone to all guided munitions. Yes they do. Some weeks ago, the Bundeswehr broadcasted a video about their JTACs practicing with Tornadoes providing CAS with 4 unguided 500 lbs retarded bombs each. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdBuMdkJF84 Edited August 15, 2015 by Westwind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Hi, Phantom BigStud I used Xtracrylics ANA 613. IMHO is just perfect. There is a Revell Gelboliv Which is nearly identical. Fernando thats what I'm using, but looks too light vs the photos, maybe I've got a dodgy pot though colour isn't uniform Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 looking at the photos looks to me like the shade I've chose for RAL6014 is well wrong, chosen revell 42, but looks much too light and greeny, also Fernando I was not referencing to the camouflage being boring, it was the lack of ordicance that was the issue, I don't find either the camo or the marineflieger one boring RoG give their #46 NATO-Oliv (available in both enamel and acrylic form) as a RAL6014 match. HTH, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 RoG give their #46 NATO-Oliv (available in both enamel and acrylic form) as a RAL6014 match. HTH, Andre http://www.revell.de/uploads/tx_eagle/Farbtafeln_Aqua-Color_en.pdf They list Nato Olive as a match for RAL7013 heere, seems none of their paint is a amtch for RAL6014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hi, PhantomBS, I used the Xtracrylics in a Norm 72 Phantom, which should have had the same colour, and it worked perfectly. Revell 42 is nearly identical. What are you using for Basaltgrau? Nato-oliv 46 is much lighter; probably a colour for vehicles? Fernando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 for the rest of the paints I'm using revells matches for them as listed on their website, basalt grey number 77 Dust Grey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tempestfan Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Hi, Tempestfan. I have also seen WaKo as "Komponente"; and it is not "abteilung" as I quoted but "ausbildung" as you say. The "new" Airfix comes with some slabs molded into the outer ventral pylons; I wouldn't say they qualify. The old Harrier kit als came with four, intended for carrying "flares", and very indistinct in shape. Yes, I had a look at a sprue shot after my post, and while I felt proud that there are some shapes meaning to represent the carriers, the integral approach by Airfix is less than satisfactory. Perhaps only of Academic interest, but IIRC the Airfix Alpha also had the twin store carriers, and slightly more credible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancbuilder219 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I may have missed it within all of the excellent information in the thread but did early Marineflieger aircraft carry the Kormoran A/S missile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 nope, wasn't inservice with the navy till much later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 nope, wasn't inservice with the navy till much later The Kormoran was already in use in the F-104G era. Cheers, Andre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 The Kormoran was already in use in the F-104G era. Cheers, Andre my mistake got mixed up, the 2nd gen of the missle was what I was thinking of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 As long as it was mentioned on page 1, does anybody have an idea on what station the Tornado IDS would carry a B61? Regards, Murph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) Hi Murph. Left side I'd say. /Bosse Edited November 21, 2018 by Marlin Found a second picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Marlin said: Hi Murph. Left side I'd say. /Bosse Thank you for the info and picture; I'll assume the right center station was probably available for special weapons too. Regards, Murph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dick Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 For my money the most impressive load out would be 8 x 1,000Lb Mk83 on the fuselage stations - I have seen RAF Tornados with 8 x British 1,000lb bombs but I have not seen a Luft Tonka with 8 x Mk83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlin Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 You're welcome Murphy. I'm also planning a Luftwaffe Tornado with a nuclear loadout. But I'm going to use a third droptank instead of double nukes on mine. /Bosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murph Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 17 hours ago, Marlin said: You're welcome Murphy. I'm also planning a Luftwaffe Tornado with a nuclear loadout. But I'm going to use a third droptank instead of double nukes on mine. /Bosse I don't think there were too many strike missions (versus strategic missions) that called for two nukes due to range considerations. From talking to people that actually sat Victor Alert the standard load was just one weapon, with the exception of the F-111 on occasion. Regards, Murph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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