galgos Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm back from N Yorkshire but haven't had any chance today to get to the bench as hoped, but I have been thinking about my Tiger Moths and rigging while I was away (hums "I've got you under my skin...."!). So....I'm going to try a slightly different form of rigging. A couple of years ago I was given some free samples of rod from Albion Alloys which I've not really had much of a use for so far. But I got to thinking....having added what is effectively an empty cylinder, albeit a small one, to each turnbuckle, instead of trying to ease some Prym elastic into each one, why not use the 0.2mm nickel rod cut to length instead? If each piece is cut accurately - and I think that's the key, I can't see why it wouldn't work? Gotta be worth a try....if it doesn't work there is of course Plan B!! Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrtpaul Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like that idea mate. I'd never do it cos I wouldn't be able to get the right length and I always need a little fudge factor built it LOL I'm really liking how this is coming together mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Sounds like a plan but Spring steel (piano) wire might be more robust/less prone to link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Oooh sounds interesting Max, will watch and await your verdict. Keep up the fantastic work All the bestChris​ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 Thanks Jon and Chris, I'm hoping this is going to work. The rod has quite a lot of rigidity for 0.2mm thickness so there's no danger of kinking Jon. If it doesn't work it's more likely to be my ineptitude! Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 At last a LITTLE bench time! One of the Tiger Moths in my diorama appears to have its nose reasonably intact so I've been doing some work on this one. Apart from seeing a small part of the forward cylinder of the engine through the front of the nose I thought little else would be seen and therefore decided not to do anything special about detailing, or even including much of it....but I keep forgetting that my planes are going to be upside down and there's a whacking great gap underneath on the starboard side. So I built the nose structure then tried to get the engine in on a test fit....wouldn't go would it!!? So the answer is to cut the engine in half and install in two parts, it may end up as only three quarters of an engine yet! Hope to get some more done later...... Max 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 4, 2015 Share Posted October 4, 2015 Hi Max Looking good getting the nose on, I was wondering about the big gap on the underside when I first looked , good luck with the engine etc. Keep up the good work. All the bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 Engine's in Chris, no problems and thinned down side panels fit well. Like you I've also been working on the upper wings, the lucky aspect about my builds is that I don't have to worry about the correct dihedrals with a couple of pranged planes! Pics tomorrow I hope but I have to go to a funeral so light permitting for photographs of progress. Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 One of the planes is ready for the primer paint shop at last. I've completed the nose including hinges from fine brass wire and also started thinking about the nose section of the other one. This one will be hinged at an angle, I've yet to decide how but I'm building it as a separate unit. The top section will be dented and one engine panel hanging open and buckled....these two are modelled here in lead foil but may yet change! I know I've got some good bench time coming up after tomorrow so I'm hoping for significant progress. Max 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Shaping up very nicely Cheers Jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Oh yes Max looking good, did you have fun straightening out the struts, mine had some warping but hopefully straightened up okay now. A great moment getting the nose on. Keep up the good work All the bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 6, 2015 Author Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yes Chris, it was a relief to get the nose on properly but my main problem is all the handling that I'm doing and trying not to knock bits off, so easy to catch one of the turnbuckles for instance and ping it off! Thankfully my struts were OK but then my build gives me carte blanche to have all sorts of bends and crazy angles. :) I've also been working on the metal cover between the empennage and the fuselage: It took many attempts with a paper template to get the right size, shape and angles but I finally got there. I've done one so far using lead foil sheet secured with CA - it looks good! Pictures tomorrow afternoon. Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Max you tease !!! All the bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 7, 2015 Author Share Posted October 7, 2015 Pictures as promised (sorry Chris! ). So here's the cover made from lead foil, lovely stuff to work with, soft and easy to cut yet holds its shape so well: and here it is in situ: The first of the Tiggies after a coat of Tamiya fine white primer. When it's thoroughly dry I'll be going over it all with a very fine sanding stick followed by micro-mesh polish: Working on the nose of the other: I've added some plug leads but don't intend detailing any further. The engine cover and side panel again are lead foil with a brass rod hinge holding it all together. The inside of this has now been primed so I'll be spraying the whole lot with interior green shortly. More tomorrow I hope....cracking on now! Max 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 Impressive scratch building and detailing, Max! Keep the pictures coming Cheers Jaime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share Posted October 8, 2015 More bits and pieces today. I've been working on the u/c of the lower Tiger Moth, it being rather bent out of shape. I'm trying to reproduce the damage without giving myself too much work though it's painfully slow because I have to wait for each section to dry thoroughly before I can move onto the next little bit....still, no hurry! The damaged nose is also starting to take shape: Visitors over the next two days so small chance of bench time....but at least all the joints will be fully hardened! Max 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Hi Max Great work fella loving the metal panels. Keep up the good work All the bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Something that's been exercising my simple mind for some time is the best way of doing the chequerboard band. The band itself of course is not a regular narrow rectangle due to the narrowing of the fuselage and its angles so I spent a while this morning working out its shape, duplicating it, then applying the mask to the fuselage: [/url] .....and before too long the first layers of yellow paint were laid down. I'm hoping to cut stencils and spray all the markings but I've got to get to grips with my cutting machine first....more time needed! Max 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Oooohhhh very nice Max, a major point reached with paint going on, they look great. Fantastic work fella All the bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 Cheers Chris, yes it is quite a significant step. There have been so many small hurdles to overcome in both our detailed builds and sometimes you spend a lot of time with not very much to show. Today has been the opposite: a bit of masking and a couple of coats of paint.......but it means that MOST of the small hurdles are behind me, just the trifling matter of rigging! Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrtpaul Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Outstanding work there Max. I'd like to put an order in for 4 sets of cowls and 4 of those metal tail covers thanks mate :coolio: :coolio: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 12, 2015 Author Share Posted October 12, 2015 I'd like to put an order in for 4 sets of cowls and 4 of those metal tail covers thanks mate :coolio: :coolio: Cheers Paul. The cowls are easy, the tail covers less so, but I'm very willing to send you the template and some lead foil if you wish! Max Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted October 12, 2015 Share Posted October 12, 2015 Cheers Chris, yes it is quite a significant step. There have been so many small hurdles to overcome in both our detailed builds and sometimes you spend a lot of time with not very much to show. Today has been the opposite: a bit of masking and a couple of coats of paint.......but it means that MOST of the small hurdles are behind me, just the trifling matter of rigging! Max Great looking with the yellow paint, Max! Impressive work till now I perfectly understand you, regarding the inordinate amount of time we can spend with very small bits and details... My Moth is still in the cockpit detailing work after more than a month and I haven't done any scratch building. But that's my slowness taking charge, of course Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galgos Posted October 15, 2015 Author Share Posted October 15, 2015 Slowly getting there, most of the main painting is complete though I now have the "lovely" job of putting lots of 4mm squares in the chequerband to mask the white before spraying the rest red.....cross-eyed time coming up! I've been thinking about ways of attaching the damaged engine section and decided to use the fuel and oil lines which come from the bulkhead, I'll use a reasonably thick and stiff wire to give it some substance, though this will be the final, final stage of the build. After I've done the squares I'll mix a very dilute brown-black paint and very lightly spray parts of the wings and fuselage to tone the yellow down. Onwards, onwards! Max 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbadge Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Looking fantastic Max, great work fella, I got my engine and nose on last night but am not happy with it (needed 2 pairs of hands) and so will be cutting mine off tonight and repositioning mine. Can't wait to see yours done. All the bestChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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