Martian Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You know Martin I think you might be right. I originally thought of this and dismissed it, I reckon I might be trying to over complicate things. I will give it a try as soon as I get a chance You've been a bit quiet of late Martin, I hope all is well with you. Missing your updates! Cheers Kev A really bad bout of fibromyalgia has all but put a stop to modelling for a bit. All I have managed to do is make a very few tiny parts for my Tracker. The pain will recede to normal levels sooner or later but trying to produce work of any quality while this is going on is non-starter really. All I can do at the moment is to lurk a round BM and annoy people! Still, social services are coming round on Thursday to fit a load of disabled equipment which should make life a bit easier, a new drug has been added to my medication as well which I am hoping will help things along as well. Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Hi Martin Wishing you a speedy recovery Its always handy having some one with your talents lurking able to give sound advice/suggestions Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Kev, as long as he is down I'll ask the guy at my club tomorrow evening what he uses. He has had great results on top of AFV's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Kev this may be a bit late but have you tried using Mr Surfacer 500 you paint it on to the thickness you want then with an old short stiff hairy stick stipple at it until you see it start to dry only do a small area at a time and if it looks to be to high you can sand it down I have used this before on 1/35 scale Sherman tanks to get the rough cast texture on the turret and transmission casing and a friend of mine at my local model club used this on a Merkeva tank for the none slip areas. Beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Thanks Snapper Keith, think I've got some will give it a try Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 Round two of the non-skid deck 1200 wet & dry 600 w&d 400 w&d 240 pumice powder. Applied over un diluted PVA (found it easier to control coverage) Power applied and wiped off with razor blade resting on masking tape each side Mr surfaceer 1000. Applied wiped as above and stippled You guys got any thoughts. I'm thinking 600grit or 240 pumice, Which will probably mean the wet & dry based on ease of application Thanks for looking in Kev 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Kev think I would go with the 240 pumice it looks good and you could probably control it better when applying it to some of the more uneven surface and around the raised details If you go for the wet & dry might give you a lot more work to do but then again I am a bit lazy at times Keith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 240 pumice I think Kev, has that rough random texture that you don't get with wet and dry. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 600 wet and dry looks best to me. Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 The wet and dry looks better IMHO but Keith has a good point on applying it to the model, (this isn't really helpful is it? ) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 I used 600 wet and dry on an MTB, looked pretty good,I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thank you guys for your thoughts and comments, much appreciated Well after the testing it was time to do some modelling...... After mucking about with templates and trying to sand the back of wet & dry paper to get it thinner ..................... I thought I'd give the pumice powder a go Showing the masking and some areas plastered At first I was a bit disappointed with the uneven coverage but when painted it looks like wear & tear. Any of you guys got any thoughts or comments Thanks for stopping by 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think that, with the paint applied, it looks excellent. Used, lived in (on?) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookytooth Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Definitely looks the part Longshanks. The worn look. Simon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think it looks good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefy66 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Yes definitely the worn and used look goes with this type of boat would look like it had that just out of the shop look otherwise I think. Another cracking tip for the book Beefy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I think I would have to see some paint on it before I could give an honest opinion. Would the panels have worn that smooth? Martin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I wondered about that, and whilst my guess is they wouldn't wear that much, it is a model, and imho a little artistic interpretation is permissible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It looks good. In "reality" it wouldn't wear down that much but I wouldn't worry too much seeing as we all live in "Never Never Land" here Kev. It will also fade into the background when you start fitting the shields, deck clutter and figures so I would take the chance and leave it. Just my 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dads203 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Nothing wrong with that Kev, as others have said once the fittings go on and you get a layer of paint and weathering done It will look the business. Dan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks for all your comments guys I was concerned that some of you thought it wasn't painted, so I've taken some pics in better light with the armoured shields in place. Martin, Julian and Dan. In an ideal world I probably wouldn't have portrayed so much wear, that's down to my ineptitude. Defending my decision to leave it I will point out the following for those not in the know. The boats were in use 24/7 day & night. Two boats three crews. The two central deck lockers were ammunition lockers plus the area between shields would have been a natural path, These boats were subject to the monsoon for 3/4 months at a time if you think it rains in the UK trust me you really have no idea. I rest my case for the defence m'lord Before some one else puts it on Right I'm going back to my OOB build See you soon Kev 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeemodeller Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I am not an expert on this boat, modelling or anything for that matter. What I do know is that every day I encounter man-made objects that have great amounts of wear and tear on them. To the point where you think human interaction could not wear certain materials to that degree. Even if this degree of wear and tear is not possible this particular interpretation seems quite plausible to me and the end result certainly would be consistent with Kevs reference to his knowledge of how this boat was used. I'm not quite at you guys skill level, but appreciate your attention to replicating details. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlin56 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Thanks for all your comments guys I was concerned that some of you thought it wasn't painted, so I've taken some pics in better light with the armoured shields in place. Martin, Julian and Dan. In an ideal world I probably wouldn't have portrayed so much wear, that's down to my ineptitude. Defending my decision to leave it I will point out the following for those not in the know. The boats were in use 24/7 day & night. Two boats three crews. The two central deck lockers were ammunition lockers plus the area between shields would have been a natural path, These boats were subject to the monsoon for 3/4 months at a time if you think it rains in the UK trust me you really have no idea. I rest my case for the defence m'lord Before some one else puts it on Right I'm going back to my OOB build See you soon Kev Don't get your panties all bunched up. It looks great ! See what a difference adding the shields makes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshanks Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 No bunching here buddy Merely outlining my thought process (at least that wot can be printed) Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martian Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 With the armoured shields in place, it gives the panels a bit more perspective and now I really can't decide! I think that as it is your model you have to decide whether you like the panels, if the answer is yes then you have to keep them, if you are unsure then they need to be re-done as you will never be happy with the model. For what its worth, that's the way I approach these conundrums. Sorry, that's a rather long winded way of sitting on the fence! Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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