tc2324 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Just a quick update on how the front end it looking after all the PSR. Starting to take shape now and as you can see, I`m moving onto the wings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo11 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 Thank you D11. Ok, so things are starting to get interesting now as I move forward and I`d like opinions please on the following. Which chassis looks the move convincing? Here is the Achilles 1/48 scale which matches the aircraft but not so much 1/35 launch rail which as many of you is from an SA-2 kit. (You also might have to use a bit of imagination as it`s not completed either...). ..... and now we have a 1/35 Patton tank chassis which matches the rail, but not so much aircraft kit. Remember, this is going to be built as a kind of point defence `throw away` fighter launched from a ZELL carrier. An RAF 1950`s Bachem Ba 349 Natter if you will which was to counter the Warsaw pack hoard of bombers as they came into range. During times of tension, these fighters were deployed away from airfields and....., well.., you get the rest. I`m tempted to go for a 1/35 scale chassis but more a WWII type tank. Churchill base perhaps? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) I would go for something with small wheels that looks convincing in 1/48th scale. Maybee a King tiger with a new structure in 1/48th?! Youcould also use the achilles chassis and place the armour outwards to give it more of a platform and also would give it more body. As a Lightning weights about 15 ton and I think the launch platform about 2 ton?! than the chassis underneath would need to carry that weight. By the way nice build sofar. Cheers, Edited August 21, 2015 by Arniec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Zero Zero launching!! Hope you have some bloody big rocket/s to go with that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 21, 2015 Author Share Posted August 21, 2015 Rich, The SA-2 launcher kit comes with a pretty big SA-2 missile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyboy76 Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Crazy stuff, but fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Rich, The SA-2 launcher kit comes with a pretty big SA-2 missile. Oooo just be careful you don't put him in to orbit!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 If it's a lash-up to fill a defence hole, then WW2 surplus Churchills might be just the ticket. Suitably fussy with all those little wheels, but pretty solid underneath it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 26, 2015 Author Share Posted August 26, 2015 It`s been a very long 5 days of cutting plasti-card, lots of PSR and then bundles of waiting for things to dry or set. But it finally got to the stage where I could add some colour to my design today and in a lot of ways I think, bring it to life. Other than the cockpit, burner cans and weapons, the aircraft build and painting/spraying is pretty much complete. Went for a standard 1950`s type camo scheme and in the final picture you can see the work I`ve done on the booster rocket and ZELL launcher assembly. Gloss coat and decals next. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 27, 2015 Author Share Posted August 27, 2015 Now I know most of you will not believe me when I say that I was looking to do another squadron other than 74, but honest guv, it`s the truth. The problem I had was looking at all the air defence squadron decals I had in the spares box and finding the they either did not fit, looked far too large or were far to modern. With reluctance I turned to my special Tiger stash and hey presto..., they fit. 74 it is then....... Still need to apply some more stencils hence the glossy look, but not long to go before the matt coat is applied. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrich Posted August 27, 2015 Share Posted August 27, 2015 she does look really nice and what a quick build!!! The only thing is I still think the longer nose looked better, but thats just me, it's still a fine job which I am envious of! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyboy76 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Fantastic dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 Cheers guys. Rich, I know what you mean about the nose but as with most things `whiffy`, you are sometimes dictated too by dimensions and this was one of those times. Saying that, the nose cone is from the EE Lightning which is of the same era, so the technology and size of it would be acceptable. I reckon I`m about half way through this build, still got so much to do.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Brilliant. All sorts of MODS and updates come out once in service so who's to know what nose it would end up with. Love the the way you used those Phantom intakes among a really good mash up of bits! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thanks chaps. So at the end of play today I`m a few bits and bobs short of finishing the airframe with the `booster` in place, aircraft armed and a pitot tube added to let the pilot know he`s going a godzillion miles an hour......., Work will start shortly on the frame that holds the aircraft to the launch rail. Talking of which, I can`t keep calling it that `aircraft`, so I`ve come up with a name and designation and a mission profile. Bare in mind this is the 559`s `older brother`, so in effect this is a whiff based on a whiff. (Confused yet?) It will hence be known as the Vickers Supermarine Sceptre F.1. This is a point defence `throw away` fighter. During times of tension and understanding that the Soviets could knock out most major airfields within minutes, the Septre squadrons would deploy in the field away from their home bases. Once launched, they would climb to 50,000 feet at Mach 2.5, intercept incoming Soviet bombers and once the missiles were depleted the pilot would, if fuel allowed, make his way back to friendly lines. Once there, the cockpit section would separate from the main airframe, deploy a parachute and deliver the pilot back to earth. Probably a very `baked` earth, but earth nevertheless. Pretty much a one way mission, but lets face, back then most were. It`s very much a German `Natter` mission profile, but again, most designs and ideas back in the 1950`s would have been influenced by German tech so it`s not too `out there`. More soon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This is looking great! As you say it has the feel of 50s desperation in the face of high odds from a threat that thankfully never materialised if even existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bzn20 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 WIF on a WIF. Love that! Its like Impressionist to Post Impressionist to Cubism. Must be carefull you dont end up with abstract expressionist and a load of Jackson Pollock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Awesome and then some! Trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Thanks chaps. An `orrible rainy day meant that I could spend a little time on the launch cradle and get it completed. The Sceptre now has a `perch` to sit on whilst I await the base unit in the shape of a Churchill VII tank. Ignore the make shift Maverick missile `splint` that`s holding it all aloft. That`s a snagging issue that I need to resolve and come up with something better. I just need to add a few more stencils to these two builds and they are pretty much all done. Dio base will be next once the weather gets better. Now that I have my 1950`s/60`s point defence fighter in 1/48 scale, I will need something to `strike` with............. Separate thread in due course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo11 Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I love me some TSR-2 good-ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I love what you've done and now on its launching pad it reminded me of something.......... http://edwardwillett.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/fireball-xl5.jpg Keep up the good work. Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) I love what you've done and now on its launching pad it reminded me of something.......... http://edwardwillett.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/fireball-xl5.jpg Keep up the good work. Trevor You wouldn`t be the first to mention that. All I can say is that the ZELL concept was born around the late 1940`s and tested to various degree`s throughout the 50`s, while Fireball XL5 started showing around 1963/4 IIRC? So I`d say Mr Anderson and Co probably copied the idea of the ZELL. (Well that`s my excuse and I`m sticking to it.....) Edited August 31, 2015 by tc2324 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tc2324 Posted September 5, 2015 Author Share Posted September 5, 2015 I`m now moving nearer to completion with this and hope to get a small dio base built tomorrow. As you will see in the following pictures, I`ve used a Churchill base and added an RAF roundel and sqn flash which I don`t think would be too out of fashion for the era as many squadrons liked to mark their `property`. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo11 Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Cracking build, that Churchill base really looks the part too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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