Richard Humm Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 AMP and Mikro-Mir (who I think were producing the kits for Mel) have issued variants of the S&M Canberra, so they might be able to use the Provost mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Let’s hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Richard Humm said: AMP and Mikro-Mir (who I think were producing the kits for Mel) have issued variants of the S&M Canberra, so they might be able to use the Provost mould. I think it depends on the contractor agreement terms between Micromir and S&M. Maybe Micromir was able to market certain variants of Canberra themselves but that might be not the case for Provost or Sycamore. Anyway molds are likely retained in Ukraine and I'm sure would eventually be reused by Micromir or by someone else who could acquire right to use the molds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyJammedKenny! Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Dennis_C said: I think it depends on the contractor agreement terms between Micromir and S&M Indeed it does, and (I would imagine) whatever Mel's estate is required to compensate either company for work already completed. @Dennis_C: Do you have any contacts at either company? I was trying to reach AMP about whatever might have happened to the 1/72 BAe 748 project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I had two Provost's. One is bult and the other in my stash somewhere. It's the Civilian one with reg G-AWPH in red black scheme. Sorely miss Mel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, TheyJammedKenny! said: Do you have any contacts at either company? I was trying to reach AMP about whatever might have happened to the 1/72 BAe 748 project Nope, unfortunately I do not. Maybe @Aardvark could know something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin @ Freightdog Models Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Knowing Mel it was probably a gentleman's agreement, they produced 1000 bags kits and he released them. Likely the Provost will appear under MikroMir/AMP if they think there is a market for them. I undestood from Mel that the mould did not last and a new one would need to be produced. Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnson Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Colin @ Freightdog Models said: Likely the Provost will appear under MikroMir/AMP if they think there is a market for them. I hope so. Being the only kit of the Provost in any numbers, the old Matchbox kit is still popular. And the 2012 CMR kit is quite pricey second hand. Edited January 9, 2023 by Johnson Not reading previous post carefully enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Colin @ Freightdog Models said: Knowing Mel it was probably a gentleman's agreement, they produced 1000 bags kits and he released them. Likely the Provost will appear under MikroMir/AMP if they think there is a market for them. I undestood from Mel that the mould did not last and a new one would need to be produced. Colin Agree that given these were short run kits, the molds are possibly not usable anymore. In that case 3D CAD drawings is what represents value. And here we have another question - who retains CADs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXANTOMCAT Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dennis_C said:And here we have another question - who retains CADs? Bounders… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis_C Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 47 minutes ago, TEXANTOMCAT said: I'm thinking of value in terms of modelling heritage. Sorry if I used a wrong word. Work done (molds, cads, decal set researches, etc.) should not disappear and it's great if it stays with modelling community (producers, enthusiasts, modellers etc.). Just hope that someone will be able to release S&M kits (issued and not issued too) again which would be in my view a great contribution to Mel's heritage. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin @ Freightdog Models Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I understand the CAD belonged to MikroMir, Mel only had the first production run, so they can re-issue the kit if they want to. Mel told me the initial Canberra B.2/T.4 mould lasted for 1000 kits, he asked MikroMir for a quote to do another run as it had sold so well. there was a misunderstanding and they went ahead with and moulded kits which he didn't agree to buy. That is why the T.19 was released by AMP using the same CAD, the unwanted plastic parts he didn't want with a new nose added. Mel later ordered the B.6 which was redesigned. The Provost was a very nice kit, hope it does re-appear at some point. Colin 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 12, 2023 Author Share Posted April 12, 2023 (edited) Error V.P. Edited April 12, 2023 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted April 12, 2023 Share Posted April 12, 2023 Seems unlikey, since the S&M kit was the early prop T.1, while Sword have their own perfectly good tooling of the Strikemaster et al.................. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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