jrlx Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Hi Joe, I'm afraid it's three Phantoms... One Royal Navy, one RAF with Alcock & Brown commemorative scheme (both already with fuselages and wings glued together) and one RAF with combat camouflage and shark teeth (!). I'll be away for the week-end, so I won't be able to work on them, but I'll take the Defiant /Do 17z instructions with me and intend to do some planning of the builds. Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Good on you Jaime, that's more than I make in a year. It's a good idea to study the plans. I make notes on mine, paint colours etc. I also highlight any holes that have to be drilled so I don't forget them. Have a good weekend. Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I'm using the GBs as a way of imposing some deadlines on my builds, in order to becoming more efficient. With this 3-Phantom build I found that if one builds similar kits simultaneously, the build efficiency increases a lot. It's also possible to improve the building steps when repeating them for the second or third similar kit. Regarding planning the builds, I start by identifying all the paints needed and grouping parts with the same colours. I also make two painting groups: acrylic paints and Alclad paints, since different primers are needed. This way it's possible to improve the painting efficiency. I also try to identify the best building order, taking into account the painting phases, which not always coincides with the building order in the instructions. Have a great week-end! Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Thank you Jaime. Just a test run to get an idea of the fit of the fuselage and wings. First I glued the undercarriage bay in place to help stiffen the wing. A couple of soft grip pegs, some extra thin cement and capillary action done the rest. Even with no internal bulkheads to help stiffen the fuselage, the joint looks very good. The horizontal stabilisers were a push fit. Next, I will glue as many parts together as possible before the first painting stage. Thanks for looking, Joe 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Looks promising, Joe. I won't be able to be so quick because I will have to do some surgery to install the PE flaps. Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Looks promising, Joe. I won't be able to be so quick because I will have to do some surgery to install the PE flaps. Jaime Thank you Jaime, your Defiant will have a lot more detail than mine. I'm sure it will look great when you've finished it. Your using group builds as a dead line is a very good idea. I've only done one on line build before this one. People leaving posts did encourage me to finish it, otherwise I wouldn't have built it so quick. That has been my only model so far this year. I'm committed to another group build this year, so with that one and this one I should have at least two more made this year. I've started gluing some of the Defiant together. It goes together really well. The plastic is a little softer than I used to, and I was a little heavy handed with the glue. I'll take a bit more care the next time I glue parts together. Nothing wrong with the kit, it was me applying to much glue. Thank you for your post on my build. I will follow yours with interest. Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob85 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Nice to see a started build! Good first steps Rob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thank you Rob, I'm hoping to get the cockpit painted during the week so I can start adding the etched parts. But I'm not the fasted of builders. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hi again, Joe. I'm sure you will provide us with another of your impressive models. I've started my planning last night. Nothing too special, just a first listing of paints needed. It seems the Defiant had gunmetal painted wheel wells and wheel hubs? Is it the same in your instructions? I ask this because the colour references for the pilots seem odd... Humbrol 90 (sky) for face colour? I'll post my colour list later in my thread. Cheers Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermo245 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thank you very much dadgaddad, but it neither of those two. The hero was seeking revenge after seeing his partner killed in cold blood. He would only fly when he wore the scarf the old lady had given him. But thank you anyway. What a price those old books are now! I've got that book! Must dig it out of wherever in the attic it is. The pilot gets the scarf from an old lady in the Spanish Civil War and it becomes his lucky charm. I remember him flying Defiants and then a Meteor where he meets his old nemesis (who's in a long nose 190).. Ahh...them were the days. Nice build by the way! Dermot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 I've got that book! Must dig it out of wherever in the attic it is. The pilot gets the scarf from an old lady in the Spanish Civil War and it becomes his lucky charm. I remember him flying Defiants and then a Meteor where he meets his old nemesis (who's in a long nose 190).. Ahh...them were the days. Nice build by the way! Dermot Bang on Dermot! Go to the top of the class. I forgot about the Spanish Civil War, but your right. That's what made me rush out and get the Airfix Defiant. If I remember correctly, his nemesis shot his gunner when they bailed out. Thank you very much Dermot. If you remember the title, could you please let me know. Regards, Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erwin Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) I always liked the Defiant. No reason why. Pitty they never did the kit in 1/32 nd or even 1/24 th scale. My only hope for a 1/ 24 th Defiant will be Airfix. Edited July 11, 2015 by Erwin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadgaddad Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I always liked the Defiant. No reason why. Pitty they never did the kit in 1/32 nd or even 1/24 th scale. My only hope for a 1/ 24 th Defiant will be Airfix. An Airfix Defiant in 1/24? That would just be too much fun. Rotating turret, moveable guns, oh yes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hi again, Joe. I'm sure you will provide us with another of your impressive models. I've started my planning last night. Nothing too special, just a first listing of paints needed. It seems the Defiant had gunmetal painted wheel wells and wheel hubs? Is it the same in your instructions? I ask this because the colour references for the pilots seem odd... Humbrol 90 (sky) for face colour? I'll post my colour list later in my thread. Cheers Jaime Hello Jaime, sorry I didn't see your post. Thank you. I wondered about that as well. I'm not to sure, It's the same in my instructions. I was going to ask Stew as he's posted a Dog Fight Double on here which excluded the New Airfix Defiant. If I find out, I'll let you know. Joe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hello Jaime, sorry I didn't see your post. Thank you. I wondered about that as well. I'm not to sure, It's the same in my instructions. I was going to ask Stew as he's posted a Dog Fight Double on here which excluded the New Airfix Defiant. If I find out, I'll let you know. Joe. Thanks for the confirmation, Joe. I think I have the thread you mention bookmarked. If I find that it first in the meanwhile, I'll let you know. Cheers, Jaime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thanks for the confirmation, Joe. I think I have the thread you mention bookmarked. If I find that it first in the meanwhile, I'll let you know. Cheers, Jaime Thank you Jaime, that would be most helpful. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hi Joe, and Jaime, if I recall the paint instructions in the Dogfight Double set were quite odd so I ignored them - I think they used the nearest match to the colours provided in the little pots of paint and in a couple of cases 'nearest' was 'nowhere near'. I would go with either interior green or sky for the wheelbays and either aluminium or black for the undercarriage legs - feel free to ask around though as I am not an expert Cheers, Stew 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrlx Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Rob, Stew, curiously enough, the instructions direct us to paint the undercarriage legs black and the inner surfaces of the wheel well doors sky (!) Cheers% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Hi Joe, and Jaime, if I recall the paint instructions in the Dogfight Double set were quite odd so I ignored them - I think they used the nearest match to the colours provided in the little pots of paint and in a couple of cases 'nearest' was 'nowhere near'. I would go with either interior green or sky for the wheelbays and either aluminium or black for the undercarriage legs - feel free to ask around though as I am not an expert Cheers, Stew Thank you Stew. I'll been gluing some of the parts together. They are nicely moulded, but very delicate. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thank you Stew. I'll been gluing some of the parts together. They are nicely moulded, but very delicate. Joe I know what you mean Joe, but when all those undercarriage parts are glued together they are sturdy enough to drop the model on the floor without breaking (... ask me how I know!) Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 I know what you mean Joe, but when all those undercarriage parts are glued together they are sturdy enough to drop the model on the floor without breaking (... ask me how I know!) Cheers, Stew Don't tell me you dropped it! I broke a pair of the gun barrels in half without even knowing it. Luckly I've found them. I see I'm going to have to take care. This is the first 1/72nd scale model I've made in a while. I'm a bit clumsy sometimes since I've developed HAVS (white finger). It's not a problem, but it affects my grip sometimes. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Dapple Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yep Joe, and on the tiled kitchen floor too! If you can get the parts off the sprue without breaking them they are fine, but that's the trick, isn't it? Sorry to hear about the white finger, did you used to work a pneumatic drill? Chainsaw? Cheers, Stew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yep Joe, and on the tiled kitchen floor too! If you can get the parts off the sprue without breaking them they are fine, but that's the trick, isn't it? Sorry to hear about the white finger, did you used to work a pneumatic drill? Chainsaw? Cheers, Stew Thanks Stew. Air powered tools, but a rivet gun and small diamond circular saw were the worst culprits. I don't use them anymore, so it should not get any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Brown Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Watching with interest. Can't do popcorn thing as I'm on me iPad. Rick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboydim Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Watching with interest. Can't do popcorn thing as I'm on me iPad. Rick. Thanks Rick. I do everything on an ipad too, so all I can do is this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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