Homebee Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 (edited) New Airfix kit announced: 1/72nd Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c Source: http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/workbench/workbench-behind-the-scenes-at-airfix/ Quote New tooling No.1 Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c BE2c profile line drawings We're excited to announce that the 1:72 Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c will be part of the new Airfix 2016 range, due for release in January. Designed by the government Royal Aircraft Factory, the BE.2c was predominantly a reconnaissance aircraft, at a time when the main focus of aviation activity was obtaining battlefield information. The first edition of our new Aerodrome blog includes a robust history of the BE2c, including the destruction of airship SL.11 and the first Victoria Cross award for actions in the UK, so we will concentrate on the model's development from here. A preserved example of the Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c Any new model tooling project has a long and complex development period - to explain the process in detail would take several blogs! The first step is obviously to decide on a subject, obtain the relevant permissions and begin researching it for argument's sake, lets assume that the new model is an aircraft. The next stage is to gather detailed drawings and archive photography, then arrange a visit to a 'real' example (assuming that it still exists) to painstakingly measure and photograph, and possibly laser scan the aircraft. The design work begins with the creation of a 3D CAD surface model of the aircraft in the desired scale. The parts are then designed from this surface model and the required surface details are added. The whole design process can take from 3 weeks for this BE2c, up to 10 months for the 1:24 Typhoon. Technical rigging plan of the BE2c, used at the development stage The Design is then prototyped to allow the team to check the accuracy of the design, and how the kit assembles. After several more internal hurdles, work can begin on designing and producing the model tooling itself. Airfix research trip to Duxford airfield Even after all of this development work has been completed, it will still be many months before the new model is available in the shops. Once the tool is ready to be tested, it will run a series of test shots. These are built by the designer to test for any required altercations or refinements, and the process is repeated. While tooling is underway, any artwork that may be required can begin to be designed, which includes production of the decals needed for the new model and the all important instruction sheet. The penultimate stage is to commission any box artwork for the model, before production samples are finally approved and the kit released for sale. All this work can take many months to complete and although we have made it sound quite a methodical process, there will inevitably be a multitude of challenges along the way. Computer rendered 3D CAD image of the new Airfix BE2c aircraft model The beautiful new BE2c will be an extremely welcome addition to the Airfix aviation range and as you can see from the CAD model image below, it is an extremely impressive piece of work. This image also shows the addition of the 10 wing spar mounted Le Prieur rockets, which were designed to be used in the battle against the Zeppelin balloon menace. The rockets proved to be rather ineffective against these silent night raiders, with the firing of them being much more visually impressive, than operationally effective. A brand new detail, which also features in our second new release below, is the inclusion for the first time of digitally sculpted pilot figures, a technology never seen before in an Airfix kit. Computer rendered 3D CAD BE2c model, featuring the strut mounted Le Prieur rockets Decal options for the new BE2c The new BE2c model is due to be released in January 2016 and will be supplied with decal options to complete one of two aircraft. They will be: Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c, 2693, Lt. William Leefe Robinson, Suttons Farm Airfield Essex 3rd September 1916 This is the aircraft that Robinson used when destroying German airship SL.11, over Cuffley on 3rd September 1916. He was awarded the Victoria Cross for this action. Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c, 8407, Royal Naval Air Service, East Fortune Airfield, East Lothian December 1916 This aircraft was fitted with ten Le Prieur rockets, which were attached to the outer wing struts of the aeroplane. Model sprue image for the new BE2c model in 1/72nd scale V.P. Edited January 4, 2017 by Homebee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Looks good. I see the Le Prieur rockets are an 'option' on the struts. Edit; I see early and late tail fins too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Coombs Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Sweet. If you build the rocket option, you've got the strut angle set for you automatically (though there looks to be a jig of some kind provided too). I wonder how many people will build one of these and display it beside the 1958 vintage RE8 kit? That'll show us how the hobby and technology has come along. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatbox8 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Sweet. If you build the rocket option, you've got the strut angle set for you automatically (though there looks to be a jig of some kind provided too). I wonder how many people will build one of these and display it beside the 1958 vintage RE8 kit? That'll show us how the hobby and technology has come along. I think I will be. Spent ages modifying the RE8 then even longer rigging it! Great news from Airfix though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Parts breakdown suggests a BE12 might be a possibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Airfix take the chance and make the kit from transparent plastic so we can finally replicate the shine through effect of linen !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Airfix take the chance and make the kit from transparent plastic so we can finally replicate the shine through effect of linen !!! IMHO that'd be bad news. Roden tried it with their 1/48th 1 1/2 Strutter, and a few other people have too in other scales, and were not met with much approval. Purely because transparent plastic is very brittle (has to be, some of the things that give colours also plasticise the plastic - so to speak). Very hard to work with a whole kit made of the stuff, and if the struts were made of it I wouldn't give much chances for preparing them successfully. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuro Nezumi Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 The Le Prieur rockets have aligned the interplane struts for us! I am most grateful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 IMHO that'd be bad news. Roden tried it with their 1/48th 1 1/2 Strutter, and a few other people have too in other scales, and were not met with much approval. Purely because transparent plastic is very brittle (has to be, some of the things that give colours also plasticise the plastic - so to speak). Very hard to work with a whole kit made of the stuff, and if the struts were made of it I wouldn't give much chances for preparing them successfully. Paul. Only the main bigger more robust parts (wings, tailplanes and maybe the fuselage halves) needed to be transparent, the delicate parts that are prone to snap can still be in the usual grey flexible plastic ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Only the main bigger parts (wings, tailplanes and maybe the fuselage halves) needed to be transparent, the delicate parts that are prone to snap can still be in the usual grey fexible plastic ... But then they'd have to redesign the sprues in those shots............ Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
occa Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 But then they'd have to redesign the sprues in those shots............ Paul. True that, too late I am afraid ... Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeronut Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well that's my 60th Birthday present to self sorted, but can we refer Airfix to the court of human rights on the grounds of cruelty, making me wait six months before they arrive. It would have been better if they just appeared without fanfare. Also it takes all the fun out of the guessing game we have in November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr T Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Airfix did plan a BE2 kit back in 1976 I understand, but it did not get far which is probably just as well. Lots of potential with this kit for other variants using the early wing. i can see me crosskiting this with a Phoenix BE2A (with changes to wing shape) and an HR BE12b. Looks like a sensible wing jig on the sprue shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray S Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Ah, this is great. Also even better news is that we only have to wait 6 months knowing it is due, whereas we have had to wait 11 (possibly 12 ) knowing the Shackleton is on its way! I will definitely be getting one some of these. Cheers, Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRK4m Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 AT LAST !! Messrs Airfix - we still need the FK.8, FE.2, DH.6, any Farman (20? 40?), Voisin 8, Caudron G.4 and so on... Sweet dreams, aren't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 IMHO that'd be bad news. Roden tried it with their 1/48th 1 1/2 Strutter, and a few other people have too in other scales, and were not met with much approval. Purely because transparent plastic is very brittle (has to be, some of the things that give colours also plasticise the plastic - so to speak). Very hard to work with a whole kit made of the stuff, and if the struts were made of it I wouldn't give much chances for preparing them successfully. Paul. Agree entirely with Paul. Pure polystyrene is clear and brittle. The plasticiser make it opaque. The Roden kits are a right PITA. Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Only the main bigger more robust parts (wings, tailplanes and maybe the fuselage halves) needed to be transparent, the delicate parts that are prone to snap can still be in the usual grey flexible plastic ... The clear parts then also have to be perfect. Technique too. Any sanding, filling, gluing less than perfect painting etc shows up like the proverbial dog's danglies. Note also that the parts are already on sprues with a lot of very fine parts which (from the bleating) I know are a problem for those not accustomed to building WW1 subjects. Shane (edit: oh poo, Paul has already covered that too. Sorry) Edited July 4, 2015 by Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 New Airfix kit announced: 1/72nd Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c Source: http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/workbench/workbench-behind-the-scenes-at-airfix/ Seriously nice subject. However it does appear to have raised starving cow ribs on the *underside* of the wings. Either the Airfix laser scan doesn't work worth a cracker, or I'll be burning a lot of sandpaper removing them. A pity, since the likes of Roden (first) then Eduard eventually noticed that they don't exist. Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Thompson Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Seriously nice subject. However it does appear to have raised starving cow ribs on the *underside* of the wings. Either the Airfix laser scan doesn't work worth a cracker, or I'll be burning a lot of sandpaper removing them. A pity, since the likes of Roden (first) then Eduard eventually noticed that they don't exist. Shane Hopefully it's exagerated by sideways lightning, but it does look a little OTT, Presumably since release date is half a year away this is a test shot and they might accept some feedback, and (more importantly) be able to do something about it. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 (edited) Photographic exaggeration, I think. But there is enough time between now and January to iron out the kinks. But doesn't it look nice? And somehow I don't think it and the Eindecker will be the only Great War releases in next year's catalogue. Edited July 4, 2015 by T7 Models Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hopefully it's exagerated by sideways lightning, but it does look a little OTT, Presumably since release date is half a year away this is a test shot and they might accept some feedback, and (more importantly) be able to do something about it. Paul. ANY raised rib at all is exaggeration. And if it's a test shot, the mould is already cut and no significant changes are likely. Now, if it was a 3D test print I'd hold out some hope of change but I don't imagine they test print it sprues and all We can but hope. If it's just exaggerated it'll take less sandpaper Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Photographic exaggeration, I think. But there is enough time between now and January to iron out the kinks. But doesn't it look nice? And somehow I don't think it and the Eindecker will be the only Great War releases in next year's catalogue. Not so sure: I think Airfix will first see how well they sell before embarking on further WW1 subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICMF Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Awesome news! Anyone interested in an SS conversion for it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 ANY raised rib at all is exaggeration. And if it's a test shot, the mould is already cut and no significant changes are likely. Now, if it was a 3D test print I'd hold out some hope of change but I don't imagine they test print it sprues and all I've seen 3D prints of sprues before, but I think this is the real thing (3D print wouldn't give ejector pin marks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted December 18, 2015 Author Share Posted December 18, 2015 Source: http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/news/workbench/boeing-bristol-blenheim-be2c-and-more/ Quote Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c The magnificent box artwork adorning the Airfix BE2c release Since this magnificent new model was announced in June this year, we have produced a number of articles featuring this interesting aircraft, which was the product of a nationalised aviation manufacturer. Workbench Edition 1 features the development of the BE2c, whilst Aerodrome 12 looks specifically at the VC winning aircraft, which was flown by William Leefe Robinson, in the home defence role, against the hated Zeppelin. The new Airfix catalogue includes both a Dogfight Double set, featuring the BE2c and the Eindecker, as well as the individual releases of both models. The decal options included with the Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c (A02101) are: Livery and decal details for the new Airfix BE2c (Option 1) Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c2693Lt. William Leefe RobinsonNo.39 (Home Defence) SquadronRoyal Flying CorpsSutton’s Farm AirfieldEssex2nd/3rd September 1916 This was the aircraft that Robinson used to famously destroy the German Schutte-Lanz SL.11 Airship on the evening of 2nd-3rd September 1916, which was the first British victory over the hated Airships. The feat earned Robinson the Victoria Cross and the admiration of the entire nation, elevating him to celebrity status overnight. Livery and decal details for the new Airfix BE2c (Option 1) Royal Aircraft Factory BE2c8407Royal Naval Air ServiceEast Fortune AirfieldEast LothianDecember 1916 This particular BE2c was fitted with ten Le Prieur rockets, which were attached to the outer wing struts of the aeroplane – these rockets were designed for use in the battle against the hated Zeppelin balloon menace. Unfortunately, the rockets proved to be rather ineffective against these silent night raiders, with the firing of them being much more visually impressive than operationally effective. They do help to tell the story of how Britain began to use aeroplanes as an effective home defence weapon and the first nightfighter operations. V.P. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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