Jabba Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 (edited) I don't of I will be allowed thsi one, but I will try. In around 1988 the Iraqi Air Force was looking at buying some Tornado F3s and were almost about to buy them, but it was then revealed that the British Government does not sell to countries that are at war wwhich Iraq was with Iran. But what if the Iraqis were allowed this purchase? I will be using the Hasegawa kit and some Linden Hill decals and the rest is a bit fluid at the moment. The Kit. The Decals Edited June 17, 2015 by Jabba 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockeyboy76 Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Quick question. Does anyone know where I can get a set of Airwaves wings for a Tornado with the flaps and slats deployed? I have had a look on Hannants web site and they say that they are future release. I have also looked at a few other web sites but to no avail. Also I know that the F3s did not normally have the outer wing pylons fitted, but as with all British aircraft that are sold to overseas forces, they were/are usually better equipped than the RAF version. What I am thinking of doing is fitting these pylons so that they would be able to carry Sidewinder missiles. My question is although I know that this is a what if, could these pylons have actually had the load capability to carry these missiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 They would almost certainly have the load capability, the RAF fitted them to F3's on deployments for Op Telic and Deny Flight (I think it was anyway) to carry BOZ pods and towed decoys. The were never used to carry offensive weapons by the RAF and probably weren't wired for it. Muzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 They would almost certainly have the load capability, the RAF fitted them to F3's on deployments for Op Telic and Deny Flight (I think it was anyway) to carry BOZ pods and towed decoys. The were never used to carry offensive weapons by the RAF and probably weren't wired for it. Muzz Thanks, I knew that there were fitted on Op Telic, I suppose that they could have been wired to carry Sidewinder missiles at some satge especially if a customer asked for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Interesting idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 nice idea! an Iraqi Tornado F.53! The F.3 was equipped and wired for 4 AIM-9 type missiles + the 4 Skyflashs semi recessed on the belly just like the F-15.... would you need any more? Flanker style? 10 AAMs? its a WHIF, so why not! just think about the overwing rocket pods for the Saudi/ Kuwaiti Lightnings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 13, 2015 Author Share Posted June 13, 2015 The F.3 was equipped and wired for 4 AIM-9 type missiles + the 4 Skyflashs semi recessed on the belly just like the F-15.... would you need any more? Flanker style? 10 AAMs? More bangs for your bucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzz Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 nice idea! an Iraqi Tornado F.53! The F.3 was equipped and wired for 4 AIM-9 type missiles + the 4 Skyflashs semi recessed on the belly just like the F-15.... would you need any more? Flanker style? 10 AAMs? Ultimately wired for 4 ASRAAM and 4 AMRAAM before retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exdraken Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 (edited) Ultimately wired for 4 ASRAAM and 4 AMRAAM before retirement. yeah, but it would probably have been buried in Iraqi desert sand by the time the RAF Tornado F.3 got those!! Edited June 18, 2015 by exdraken 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 14, 2015 Author Share Posted June 14, 2015 Ultimately wired for 4 ASRAAM and 4 AMRAAM before retirement. I am making it from the 1991 time period, so it will have Skyflash and Sidewinder Ls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 As I have been unable to find an Airwaves Tornado Wing set (apart from the US at great expense) I have decided to build the wings as from the kit. I will have a better update in the next day or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 A small update. I have built up the cockpit, making it more into an operational F3, and this has been glued into one half of the fwd fuselage. I will hopfully get the fwd fuselage together in the next day or so. I have also been making up the parts that go inside the rear fuselage, but I have not painted them as yet. This part was dameged the other night when I had a liquid poly spillage. Luckily most of the damage was on the inside of the part or where the missiles will go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 I have made some headway with this model, having got together the Fwd and rear parts of the fuselage. I have also placed my homemade TABs on top of the Navs instrument panel to give it some slightly better representation of what should be there. Hopefully I shall get these two halves joined together in the next day or so. The Fwd fuselage. The rear fuselage. This picture shows the difference in the Fwd wing sweep with both fully Fwd between the Hasegawa kit (left) and a recently finished Revell GR1B (Right). Thanks for looking. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 I have got the front and back halves together now, plus the fin. I still have some parts of the intakes to add, but luckily I have not added them. I mentioned earlier that I was hoping to make this model with the Airwaves wing which has the slats and flaps out, but as I had been unable to find a set (apart from one that came at great postage) I decided to forgo that and stick with the kit wings. Just after I took these photos I went onto Hannants web site and there the first new arrival of the day was the Airwaves Tornado wing so I ordered a set. So now I have a slight change of plan. As I had not added the outer sides of the air intakes I was able to prise apart the wing glove/nib and remove the wings, so that hopefully I can get the Airwaves wings in. Oh the joys of a modeller. I also rubbed the front of the fin a smidge, which is now slightly better than the kits, and I have added some filler to the front end. There are a lot of sink marks in the rear end that require filling but I will not do much in that area until the new or old wings are fitted. Anyway some pictures before the wings were removed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 This picture shows the difference in the Fwd wing sweep with both fully Fwd between the Hasegawa kit (left) and a recently finished Revell GR1B (Right). Thanks for looking. Which is better? Or is there a difference in the actual variants? I genuinely have no idea! Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 I don't know which is better, and I don't think that there was an actual difference between variants as I think that the wing sweep jack (actuator) could be fitted to either variant and the range of operation of this jack was the same. No actual update just a picture of a Hasegawa GR 1 (pink one) and the Revell GR1B, and the difference in angle when the wings are fully forward are still the same as the previous picture. The Hasegawa kit is fitted with the Airwaves wing, but this has no difference as to where the wing sits. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookenbacher Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hmmm, that's interesting Jabba, I'd be inclined to think that the Revell is more correct, but have no idea. The F3 is coming together nicely, and I'm looking forward to the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 The maximum forward sweep of the Tornado is 25°, so I reckon Revell have it closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 5, 2015 Author Share Posted July 5, 2015 Thanks for the input. I will be leaving it as it is, as the airwaves wing is designed for the Hasegawa kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Thes arrived in the post yesterday, so it is onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 New wings and the rest of the intakes are now fitted. Some filler has been applied to the rear end and the intakes, so it is now to sanding. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arniec Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Nice progress. Have you already decided what colour scheme you are going to use?! A desert camo like the saudi's have would be nice (I think) Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 I have been thinking about the colour scheme and I am a little undecided at the moment. It was the Saudi GR1s that had the desert camo scheme, their F3s were the same as the RAF ones, Grey. I am thinking of a desert scheme as per the MiG 23s that the Iraqis use, but as I said I am not sure at the moment if the Iraqis would have asked for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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