Solo Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I have got questions regarding jets like this one: First is about A/G weapons. Is it possible for this A+ version to carry AGM-65 Maverick missiles? Or maybe this kind of weapon is suitable only for C version? If so, what kind of A/G weapons are proper for Marines' version of this jet? And second question regarding engines. According to my best knowledge, the A (and I think also A+) and C Hornets have got the same engine, with only small differences (but I am not sure this information). May I use resin exhaust nozzles designed for model of F/A-18C to F/A-18A+ model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Neu- Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I have got questions regarding jets like this one: First is about A/G weapons. Is it possible for this A+ version to carry AGM-65 Maverick missiles? Or maybe this kind of weapon is suitable only for C version? If so, what kind of A/G weapons are proper for Marines' version of this jet? And second question regarding engines. According to my best knowledge, the A (and I think also A+) and C Hornets have got the same engine, with only small differences (but I am not sure this information). May I use resin exhaust nozzles designed for model of F/A-18C to F/A-18A+ model? F/A-18A always had the ability to fire the Maverick, however it originally could only fire the TV version. ECP583 gave it basically all of the F/A-18C's capabilities in terms of weapons. Typically you'd see JDAMs, paveway and mavericks... usually in the 500~1000lbs class and with tanks. I'd search the web for reference photos. I believe the engines have no real external differences, though there are significant internal ones. I could be wrong however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The A and C have slightly different engines internally but no external changes to the nozzles. For weapons, I believe that on ops over the Middle East the GBU-38 JDAM, GBU-12 and AGM-65E are carried. The A+/C models tend to have one tank on the centreline pylon and one on the right inboard pylon. Some info here http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=250 hth Stephen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike V Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) Actually, the basic GE 404 Engine remained the same from the A-C Hornets, aside from the AFT-Control to DEC upgrades during the 90s; though nothing notable modeling wise. Externally, the original 404 had straight turkey feathers while later (now current) GE 404 Exhaust Nozzles went to a "notched" turkey feather.The first photo shows the straight/original F-18 Turkey feathers and the second; notched type. If you look closely, you will note that this Hornet has both types nozzles installed. Edited May 15, 2015 by Mike V 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Thanks a lot guys. Referring to your information I believe, I can use Aires Exhaust nozzles for F/A-18C to this model. Also I can use 2xAGM-65 and one GBU-38, or GBU-10 Paveway II. All of above for this model: http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/aca/kit_aca_12520.shtml Please correct me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hegedus Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 GBU-10 is unlikely with AGM-65 and/or GBU-38. The former is more likely to be used when going for a specific, fixed target while the Maverick and GBU-38 are likely to be seen on a jet tasked with CAS or 'target of opportunity' missions. If you want an LGB on with the AGM-65 and GBU-38, put a GBU-12 500-lb LGB on. Although, the norm seems to be to fit 2 tanks, centerline and right inboard pylons, so that only leaves 3 places to put weapons - 2 AGM-65 + GBU-38 + GBU-12 won't all fit, so one of those weapons will have to go - maybe go with a single AGM-65 with the other 2? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 I forgot to write, that regarding weapon I am limited to resin ones, like Eduard's or North Star Models, and weare talking about 1/72. Following that I can find only AGM-65 Maverick (North Star Models), GBU-10 (Eduard), and GBU-38 (Arma Hobby). I know that I have only 3 pylons for weapon (it is really strange such only one tank underwing), so what about 2xAGM-65 plus 1xGBU-38, or 2xAGM-65 plus 1xGBU-10? Does it make any sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 A more typical load would be 2 x GBU-38 and 1 x AGM-65 I would think if the load was to represent CAS on current ops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted May 15, 2015 Author Share Posted May 15, 2015 Thanks a lot, I think I will use this advice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hegedus Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Also, if you go the 2xGBU-38 and 1xAGM-65, you'll have to do "goofy gas" with one tank on the centerline and one on the right pylon. The centerline pylon isn't able to take JDAM or Maverick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Yes, I know that.It is strange such asymmetrical loadout, but I have no choice. I decided to make such total loadout for this model: 2xAGM:-65 1xGBU-38 2xAIM-9L/M 2xfuel tank (centerline and right pylon) AAS-38 Flir pod AAR-50 Tins pod. I hope this loadout makes sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Gentlemen, I have question, regarding new, June weapon release of Eduard. As I know, the GBU-49 Paveway II bomb is just modified GBU-12 bomb (am I right)? May I use it for my Hornet A+? How to you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 The GBU-49 is basically a GBU-12 with GPS capability added to it so if the A+ can carry a JDAM, it can carry a GBU-49. However going by pics: http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/photos/140924-N-KL846-108.JPG it seems the Marines use the GBU-54 which is a GBU-38 with laser guided capability. Jari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solo Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 That is true, but I am affraid there are not good quality GBU-54 or GBU-38 in this scale, so I am thinking about GBU-49. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike V Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 There are some 48th GBU-38s; though Shawn Hull's were the best by far, but are currently OOP. https://www.scalemates.com/kits/228038-shull24-20-gbu-38-jdam-usaf Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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