Alan P Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) As per the topic question: I see ALARMs, ASRAAMs and a BOZ pod (and smaller gas bags) but what's on the starboard outer pylon? (And can I get one in 1/32 )??? Edited April 1, 2015 by Brokenedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I believe that's a PHIMAT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Tis indeed a Phimat pod: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/44019-tornado-fmk3-in-op-granby/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Procopious believes correctly. Unfortunately I don't believe it's available in 1/32nd scale but it should be relatively easy to scratch build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4428 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I think the Airfix F3 kits in 1/48 came with a Phimat pod or was it the Jaguar kit????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve4428 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Sorry, just noticed the bit about 1/32 scale!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted April 1, 2015 Author Share Posted April 1, 2015 Thanks, comprehensive replies and pictorial evidence all supplied at lightning speed as usual BM'ers Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eng Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Good pics here Al, http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/72075-harrier-gr3-stores/ Rgds Eng Edited April 1, 2015 by eng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xvtonker Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The underwing stores look as though they have been photoshopped onto a clean F.3.... The typical load for the F.3 wasn't Phimat and Skyshadow, as shown here. They typically flew with the 2250ltr tanks and a towed array decoy pod on the outer pylon. Also, they never flew with ALARM missiles onboard, looks like an April fool to me!!!!! XVTonker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christof Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The underwing stores look as though they have been photoshopped onto a clean F.3.... The typical load for the F.3 wasn't Phimat and Skyshadow, as shown here. They typically flew with the 2250ltr tanks and a towed array decoy pod on the outer pylon. Also, they never flew with ALARM missiles onboard, looks like an April fool to me!!!!! XVTonker If memory serves some F.3s were upgraded to carry ALARM missiles in the SEAD role. Flew with 11 Squadron. Think they received the designation EF.3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousAA72 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) The underwing stores look as though they have been photoshopped onto a clean F.3.... The typical load for the F.3 wasn't Phimat and Skyshadow, as shown here. They typically flew with the 2250ltr tanks and a towed array decoy pod on the outer pylon. Also, they never flew with ALARM missiles onboard, looks like an April fool to me!!!!! XVTonker Well, here's another one that's been Photoshopped!! Pretty good job I'd say XV!!!http://www.projectoceanvision.com/vox/images/chapter10/f3_alarm.jpg And here..... http://img.bemil.chosun.com/nbrd/files/BEMIL085/upload/2006/01/RAF%20Tornado%20F3%20of%20No%2011%20Squadron,%20RAF%20Leeming%20carrying%20ALARMs%20(Air%20Launched%20Anti-Radiation%20Missiles_04.jpg Edited April 1, 2015 by Bill Clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1903flight Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I believe that the "EF-3" was an UOR in the run up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It was only short lived and was not deployed operationally. The jets were from 11 squadron - would may an interest model. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan P Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 Yes folks, it's real. 11(F) flew evaluation as a SEAD role after Kosovo, and it looked like being a justified force multiplier. The F3 fraternity still harbours some bitterness towards what they consider to be deliberate agitation against the idea from the mud mover hierarchy. Watch out for Dave Gledhill's F3 book coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajorClanger Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I believe that the "EF-3" was an UOR in the run up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. It was only short lived and was not deployed operationally. The jets were from 11 squadron - would may an interest model. It was indeed an Urgent Operational Requirement. I was running a couple of UORs myself (comms network upgrades) and at one point got sent a list of UORs so that I could check the details of 'mine' were correct. Being curious I scanned the rest of the list and my eyebrows rather went up when I saw 'Fit ALARM to F3'. I don't believe any were actually employed from F3 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spike7451 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 It's not a standard BOZ pod in the photo,looks like a dummy one,flare pack's been faired over as well as the chaff chute,and the blue band around the nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Hello all, Dont know if it was some or all that were wired as such, but some F3s went to GWII(?) with BOZ and PHIMAT and im sure the smaller wing tanks were used most of the time. Towards the end when all F3 ops were at Leuchars, some of the surviving ex-11 sqn machines continued to fly with outer wing pylons. Arabest, Geoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Didn't the F-3 carry a PHIMAT on one of the AIM-9 rails at one point on operations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Didn't the F-3 carry a PHIMAT on one of the AIM-9 rails at one point on operations? Yes, during Operation GRANBY in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzie Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Thanks for that Link Procopius. However, the Revell/Italeri F3s i have in the stash are just not man enough for the fits in Troffas pics! Are watching Airfix? Arabest, Geoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard E Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Hello all, Dont know if it was some or all that were wired as such, but some F3s went to GWII(?) with BOZ and PHIMAT and im sure the smaller wing tanks were used most of the time. Towards the end when all F3 ops were at Leuchars, some of the surviving ex-11 sqn machines continued to fly with outer wing pylons. Arabest, Geoff. I think quite a few Tornado F3s flew with outer wing pylons as a fatigue reduction measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner14 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Airfix seemed to have fallen for it and kitted the EF.3 in 48th. So did I; I have one in the stash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougC Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) F3 "war fit" during Op Telic (Iraq Southern No-fly Zone between GW1 & GW2):4 x Skyflash (subsequently AMRAAM)2 x AIM-9L (subsequently ASRAAM)2 x 1500 L tanks1 x Towed Radar Decoy (BOZ pod) on left outboard1 x Phimat chaff dispenser (+ ballast/ adapter) on right outboard Photo taken behind the tanker on Christmas Day 2000...... shortly before the buggers shot at us!HTH! Edited April 3, 2015 by DougC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I thought that AMRAAMs were never fitted to Tornado F3s, and certainly not during the initial phase of Op Telic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Model Builder Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 The F.3 was given AMRAAM and ASRAAM capability as part of the CSP (Capability Sustainment Programme) project in the late 1990s, and a further upgrade (AMRAAM Optimisation Programme) from 2003 allowed it to make full use of the AIM-120. I believe that Sky Flash was never fully replaced, and remained in service until the F.3 was retired. It was decided to use the F.3 as a Wild Weasel in 2003, as the radar warning equipment on the aircraft was seen to be highly effective and would make an ideal ELS (Emission Location System), as good as that on the German ECR I have heard. Only No.11 Squadron was designated to use ALARM, and aircraft so equipped were unofficially designated EF.3 or EF.3B. There was a lot of disappointment when it was decided not to retain the capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirfixAndy Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 ZE763 (DG) 11 Squadron ,RAF Leeming was the demo platform for the "EF3" Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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