Tin_Bitz Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I keep reading about people using Mr Surfacer 500. So I got some and not quite sure what it's meant to be for and what do I clean my brushes with..... Any help would be great, I build mostly aircraft but venture out with dioramas and armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I build aircraft as well, and I use it on seams that are visible but which don't have a prominent gap, like, say, the fuselage join, or a small divot in the wing leading edge. It should clean off with lacquer thinner. I apply it with toothpicks, myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerlovesbeer Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I've got some as well so it would be nice to get some feedback from real world users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin_Bitz Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Procopius- does it sand down like any good filler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Procopius- does it sand down like any good filler? Once allowed to harden, yes, it sands and feathers very nicely indeed, blends right into the plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) I tried Mr Surfacer 500 and 1000. I was interesting in using them for filling the excessive sink on Hasegawa Hurricanes, as recommended elsewhere, but find both 500 and 1000 rather too thin for this. The 1000 is very dilute, more like a coat of paint, but does serve for filling minor scratches such as file marks. For filling unwanted panel lines such as on recent Airfix kits (eg Vampire) I use Mr Dissolved Putty, and find it excellent. Edited March 29, 2015 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I tried Mr Surfacer 500 and 1000. I was interesting in using them for filling the excessive sink on Hasegawa Hurricanes, as recommended elsewhere, but find both 500 and 1000 rather too thin for this. The 1000 is very dilute, more like a coat of paint, but does serve for filling minor scratches such as file marks. I mainly use Mr Surfacer 1000 for filling in fingerprints I've made after carelessly getting glue on my hands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trenton guy Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Mr Surfacer 500 is my filler of choice. I use little plastic microbrushes (the orange handled ones) or toothpicks to apply. It can be used for gaps large and small. It has no real structural strength so I back it with super glue when the gaps are large. It can be wiped away,even when cured using Mr Color acrylic lacquer thinner. It's alcohol based so that should work as well. Sometimes it is advantageous to sand it. It sands really well and doesn't clog your sandpaper so the sand paper lasts a lot longer. It shrinks a little on drying. I just apply several layers before before wiping or sanding when I need to fill deeply. I'll never go back to putty. It is a marvelous product. By the way, it thickens over time. You can thin it with the same Mr Color thinner but I leave it thick and open a new bottle. Sometimes the super thickened 500 is superior ( ie, big gaps or thick layers). I agree that the 1000 product is more like a primer than a filler - still useful for very tiny cracks such as those between a canopy and the surrounding fuselage. No, my real name is not Fred Gunze. I just think it is a great product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin_Bitz Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Great thanks for the advice, I will give it a go. I have seen people paint it like paint onto tanks and stuff, any ideas what that may be about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Great thanks for the advice, I will give it a go. I have seen people paint it like paint onto tanks and stuff, any ideas what that may be about? I think the idea there is to simulate the uneven surfaces of cast subassemblies, but that's entirely a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I first used Mr Surfacer (1200) on a resin kit that had sat on my shelf for a long time, the problem was hundreds of tiny air bubbles in the resin, I airbrushed the Mr Surfacer thinned 50:50 with Mr Color Thinner to give a smooth undercoat, it worked out very well. I also use it as a filler applying it with a toothpick, and if I have a seam to fill that is on a panel line I fill with Mr Surfacer then use a cotton bud soaked in Mr Color thinner to remove the excess, this leaves a filled seam but leaves the line visible. Here's my first attempt to use Mr Surfacer http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/53979-yak-3/page-2?hl=aeropoxy Cheers Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Marshall Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 As a cheaper alternative to Mr Color thinner for wiping Mr Surfacer away, just use IPA. Requires a little more rubbing but is massively cheaper :-) Mr Surfacer 500 is good for small gaps Mr Surfacer 1000 works best for running along small gaps - less filling ability, but really good at repairing scratches or making panel lines thinner Mr Surfacer 1200 is best used as a primer thinned with Mr Color thinner and sprayed - IPA will work for this too, but is a lot less forgiving HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) 1. Mr. Surfacer is NOT for gap filling, it is not putty replacement, but it helps a lot with scratches. If you want to fill gaps use Mr. Dissolved Putty 1.5 I brush Surfacer 500 and spray Surfacer 1000. I don't use 1200 as see no difference with 1000 2. Thin with cellulose thinner 3. There is a dedicated product for resin - Mr. Resin Surfacer. I had an unfortunate experience of removing masking tape with a coat of ordinary Surfacer therefore can not recommend using it with resin. http://www.swannysmodels.com/Surfacer.html Edited March 30, 2015 by Pin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The only issue I have with Mr Dissolved Putty is the coluor. It's a translucent white, which makes it harder than necessary to see the exact extent of the dried priduct. I too find that Mr Surfacer 500 works well for filling fine gaps and depressions. cheers, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loft-full Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 3. There is a dedicated product for resin - Mr. Resin Surfacer. I had an unfortunate experience of removing masking tape with a coat of ordinary Surfacer therefore can not recommend using it with resin. Thanks Pin, You may very well have saved me a lot of bother. Mr Resin Surfacer was one of the Messrs I hadn't heard of berore. Now to see where I can get some........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pin Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Not sure that this is the cheapest offer http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hobby-Resin-Primer-Surfacer-261/dp/B001RI8GV4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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