Max Headroom Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 or chocolate, cheese, crisps, or food Trevor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Diet? Don't talk to me about 'diet'… Why is it that all the 'healthy' stuff is so, er, bland? Lunch? After a Full English I don't need lunch so it's purely for pleasure and to accompany my friends while they partake. Cake is acceptable IMHO PC's right though - if I'm out (with or without Mrs B) I tend to go for something tasty. Like cake. Or beer. Of course there's also my continued research into the perfect 'Sticky Toffee Pudding', like the one I had in Morpeth in 1984. A hint for the uninitiated - sponge, even with toffee sauce on top, is NOT pudding. It HAS to have dates in it. Like Nigella's. I've always liked her puddings Anyway, isn't it time that our Fritag had a thread drift into some modelling? Or is he practising his 3D modelling skills? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, CedB said: Anyway, isn't it time that our Fritag had a thread drift into some modelling? That's a jolt back to reality. Quite the task master you are Ced. Probably a good idea though, my LOL reaction finger was getting weary & the fun police will put me on a quota if I'm not careful. Steve. Edited December 3, 2019 by stevehnz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 38 minutes ago, CedB said: Like Nigella's. I've always liked her puddings Ah, that's what they're called? Good to know ... Ciao 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Definitely your only chance of dates with Nigella, @CedB 9 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) On 12/1/2019 at 11:04 AM, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Look, leave him alone: those holidays don’t take themselves, you know. Would you want a tired lawyer? [A touch of solidarity (-ish) from a man who has at least 2 stalled builds that pre-date the Hawks...] Funnily enough I find that being a lawyer has a tendency to send me to sleep, tired or not...... Soupçon of solidarity acknowledged Will endeavour to to reciprocate where appropriate (lawyer’s promise, suitably caveated.....) 23 hours ago, CedB said: Anyway, isn't it time that our Fritag had a thread drift into some modelling? Or is he practising his 3D modelling skills? Not sure how much modelling has happened in these 131 pages tbh. Keep expecting the Mods to shut it down....... 3D modelling skills? I’ll have you know I downloaded an app to this very iPad (not that you can see or know that I’m typing this on an iPad Pro in a coffee shop after having been to the gym - except that I’ve just told you of course [wish I’d not started that]) - gonna start very slowly learning. After all you can email designs to your mates to 3D print with this clever internetty/emailee thingy can’t you....You know, extra special mates Thread drift? Oh well. With all due apologies for drift..... Finished the gun sights (with the same tacky bit of (unmentionable egg) foil [sorry Crisp]) and stuck em to the coamings. Tried Gators Grip (not sure) so ended up using it as a positioning tack for some thin cyano: I’ll add the glass at the need of the build. Don’t hold your breath...... Probably too purply now - especially as Kirk, in a post somewhere above, backtracked somewhat and suggested it was actually on the green side of purple But if anyone wants to stick their heads close enough to the Hawk to see the gun sight lens then there be plenty of horrors to distract their attention....... Next task. Not finished with the wing fences yet. At 1:1 they have a flange that (presumably) is used to attach them to the wings. It’s not recreated in the kit moulding or any of the etch sheets - so I thought I’d have a punt with some 0.2mm Tamiya plastic paper cut into 0.5mm wide strips: I then used a scrap wing to stretch the strips a little to encourage it to conform to the shape of the wing: One end rounded and glued in place with some Tamiya green-cap: Once dry, then stretched/pulled around the wing: And trimmed and shaped and stuck underneath: Now waiting to fully dry/cure. With a drop more green-cap, the front has softened and conformed to the wing angle better than in this piccie: 0.2mm is a little on the thick/clunky side. I would have preferred to use 0.1mm but I’ve found that the 0.1mm plastic paper softens/distorts too easily when in contact with a liquid cement like the green-cap so 0.2mm it was. Anyway - the plan, once the flanges are dry, is to gently thin them to a less overscale appearance with a sanding stick. I’m hoping that they’ll be a little but eye-catching addition once painted. A bit of a dark wash should show em up nicely. Edited December 4, 2019 by Fritag 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 For once, a post from me about the model, so hope you’re sitting down. Stick with it on Gator’s Grip; I agree that it’s a bit of an act of faith to start with, because initially it doesn’t really appear to do anything much. But when allowed to cure it’s excellent; I use it for probably 90% of my PE nowadays. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Nice work Steve, as always I really enjoyed gazing over the additional details you've added - they'll look great under some paint (one day). 39 minutes ago, Fritag said: But if anyone wants to stick their heads close enough to the Hawk to see the gun sight lens then there be plenty of horrors to distract their attention....... How to spot a Britmodeller #64 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Sellotape Plain simple Sellotape, other names are available Stick it down where you want the flange, cut away the flange you don't want Walk away It is scale thin to represent the flanges, sticky enough to hit and stick and a coat of paint will seal it down to its fate Thin plasticard can do it but what a palaver... Still, that said the gunsights look proper Fritag to me, truly nice and if (IF) you wanted a slight colour drift why not a spot of Tamiya Clear Green X-25 as a thin film over the Cadbury ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, perdu said: Plain simple Sellotape, other names are available Stick it down where you want the flange, cut away the flange you don't want Walk away Interesting. I’ll confess to not having thought of sellotape. Not a material I’ve used for modelling. Am a bit sceptical tho’ Not sure if sellotape can stretch around compound curves; also, I did think about cutting/trimming the radiused ends of the flanges in-situ - but decided it was easier/neater to sand such a small radius before fixing it in place. In the end I was comforted by the fact that good old plastic card is so controllable. Welds nicely to the the surfaced with solvent, can be scraped, sanded and trimmed etc etc. Anyways (1) - Wot’s a bit of palaver? The hobby’s full of palaver (mind you - that could just be me....) Anyways (2) - chance to use my favourite scraping gizmo: Anyways (3) - I ain’t taking them orf to see if sellotape’s better!! First stage clean up/refinement. Should look sufficiently neat. Edited December 4, 2019 by Fritag 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Fritag said: Should look sufficiently neat. Very neat flanges there Steve. Sounds a bit like a chat up line! Terry PS. Another variation on Bill's idea might be self adhesive "metalskin" often used for canopy masking. It would adhere to a leading edge curve I reckon and could be trimmed as Bill describes. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 That's more excellent detailing, Steve Thinking along Bill's line, I'd have used Tamiya Tape for curves (I did something similar for the cowling bulges on my ME109 build, if you remember) but I confess I'm ignorant about the required scale thickness you need here, so I don't know if it's suitable or not here Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Another idea if you try this again is the litho stuff that Peter (@airscale) uses for his masterpieces? Never used the stuff personally but (1) it's metal and (2) every model I've seen that uses it looks perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Basically, Steve, what everyone is saying is that you’ve done it wrong. Hope that helps. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Fritag said: 0.2mm is a little on the thick/clunky side. I would have preferred to use 0.1mm but I’ve found that the 0.1mm plastic paper softens/distorts too easily when in contact with a liquid cement like the green-cap so 0.2mm it was Have you tried the quick setting version of tamiya extra thin. That might let you use 0.1mm without the melt down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I dunno... the lengths you'll go to in order to avoid learning the scholarly art of CADmonkery I like Bill's idea of the clear green droplets. I like Crisp's observation. the 'awk's not bad either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Basically, Steve, what everyone is saying is that you’ve done it wrong. The one thing that my two jobs (single seat FJ & the Bar) have in common is the inculcation of a thick headed refusal to listen to anyone else’s opinion - and an unreasonable belief in ones own opinion..... It’s not my fault if everyone else is wrong is it? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fritag said: It’s not my fault if everyone else is wrong is it? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Personally, I'd have stuck the selotape on before cutting the slot for the wing fence, then you could just peel it off and cut parallel to that to get perfect flanges. But I say this with benefit of the last few posts. So how does everyone else make their flanges? (Titter ye not!) Ian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Absolutely stunning detail as always with your work Steve Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 It appears that the case of Flange vs Wing has been amicably resolved. T'Hawk looks most smartly dressed now Steve. 12 hours ago, Fritag said: Funnily enough I find that being a lawyer has a tendency to send me to sleep, tired or not...... It's the claret at lunch, isn't it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Have we had enough of flanges then? I confess I never appreciated the myriad view that a humble flange could provoke. I now feel quite old fashioned in me methods The old-faithful plastic card is obvs. no longer the go-to material of choice......Nevertheless, 4 flanges have been produced: And the Fritag flange production line hereby closes..... Shan’t be reopening it....unless someone has plans for a Great Britmodeller Flange Off (GBFO)...... BTW. Looks like I’ve got to straighten a few vortex generators before painting......... Edited December 4, 2019 by Fritag 5 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Fair enough, Steve And they look great anyway, so... Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshiretaurus Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 It will be in the history books forevermore as Flangegate. BTW nice flange.👍 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Great flanges - and the way that's comfortable for you is usually the best… unless you want to use aluminium repair tape like wot TheBaron does? I've had a play with it and it's easy to handle. Too late for this one (they look good) but worth having some in the toolbox IMHO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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