giemme Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Fritag said: isn’t a hobby supposed to be stress relieving not inducing!! Indeed! But the result is totally worth it, amazing and neat! Ciao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, Fritag said: 3 more to go.....isn’t a hobby supposed to be stress relieving not inducing!! Excellent result. Stressful during fabrication I'm sure, but doesn't it feel good when its done! Terry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Streisand does describe it in a song from Mr Sondheim Steve "Art isn't easy..." But oh joy, when done right it can make your emotions soar Fritag's grille a triumph, well done mate 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, hendie said: The next time you do thon etching malarkey, if you're doing grills - copy the outline, add a smidge of space to make it a tad larger, and use that to etch a custom scribing template That is a cracking idea .......and only two years late Joking aside, that’s a really good idea because, as we all know, it’s much easier to scribe around the inside of a cut out template than around the outside of a small shape. Must try and remember that.... One other thought I had for any future small recessed brass grilles etc, based on @Airgunner‘s technique, was to etch a blank of the grille (I.e. the shape without the grilles), P’raps in thicker and so more robust brass, and then heating it and pressing it gently into the surface to create a shallow recess. Somewhat as I did with the NACA ducts but to less depth. Remember them? Hope to do the other 3 grilles this afternoon. Edited September 7, 2019 by Fritag 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, Fritag said: Somewhat as I did with the NACA ducts. Remember them? Pre-dated the time I regularly hung around on here but just checked that out. What a perfectly splendid way of doing those ducts. So many aircraft have/had those in various sizes, that's such a neat solution. Stored away for when I next need some of these. I agree it could work for your grille as well. Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggles87 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Tiny vortex generators and then the grills, all in 1/72 scale! I’m (almost) speechless with admiration. John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehnz Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Biggles87 said: Tiny vortex generators and then the grills, all in 1/72 scale! I’m (almost) speechless with admiration. John yep, what John said. Steve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geedubelyer Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Smashing work Steve. I am at a loss as to how you managed to line up all of those vortex generators so precisely. Bravo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Positively the Savoy of grill(e)s. Lovely, and well worth the effort. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandy Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: Positively the Savoy of grill(e)s. What have sausages got to do with it? Bloody good work anyway, sausages or not! Ian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 Recesses micro-chiselled: Trying Eugenio’s( @72linerlover) Mr Surfacer as glue technique. So painted the recesses in Mr Surfacer 1000 and popped in the grilles: And the results: The grille’s are still stuck there so far 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Neat! Ciao 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hendie Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 how come your close-ups never end up looking like the lunar landscapes that mine do ? I'm not jealous at all 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Good, very good question H They look rather enticing Steve, should one perhaps post to Yorkshire two CH-47 engine pods and some Airwaves grilles that you might be persuaded to Fritag into position? Hmm Mr Surfacer? Looks even better than Mr Dissolved Putty which I am beginning to really like using, so much that I will need another jar from 'A Trader At Telford' I just wish there were legible information instructions on the jars... Anyway digression over, just wow, very smart 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xffw45343tg Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 12 hours ago, hendie said: how come your close-ups never end up looking like the lunar landscapes that mine do ? It's because he photoshops real aircraft into the pictures and re-colours them to make them look like models. Obvs. Real models have fingerprints, canyon panel lines & thick canopies and can't be photographed at less than quarter of a mile away through fog. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 13 hours ago, perdu said: I just wish there were legible information instructions on the jars... There are Bill. Just in Japanese.... Most excellent work on the grilles Steve! Keith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 Airbrushed some decanted tamiya rattle-can white primer on the grills to see how they looked and what further finessing was required. I was worried that they'd end up being too visually prominent, but I think they're ok. I'm pleased that Bill was serendipitously doing grilles on his chinook. Otherwise I'd have just stuck mine on top without thinking about it. Mind you, I wasn't pleased with Bill when I was painstakingly chiseling away at the third of four grille recesses. At that point I was thinking why did he have to mention it at all......... It's his fault I started vac-forming canopies and all sorts of stuff. Basically it's his fault..... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 It’s a bit like that wacky “what would Jesus do?” movement in the States a few years back, only adjusted for BM: “It’s Bill’s fault”. Works for me. I’m with Hendie; comparing your immaculate close-up Hawks with barely a hint of stray glue, scratches from slipped scalpel/chisel, or smears of filler... with the wreckage of Ark Royal seen in close-up elsewhere on this forum... how the Hell do you do it? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Bill's fault, yeah .... Thank goodness, if it brought to this result! 14 minutes ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: how the Hell do you do it? You remember the guy is often on holiday? When he's back to the bench, he's as fresh as a daisy. Simples. Ciao 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Poor Bill! He's a nice man, a very nice man! I spring to his defence with something pointy… beware! Lovely grills but I'm with hendie and Crisp though Steve - how do you keep things so tidy? For example: 29 minutes ago, Fritag said: Airbrushed some decanted tamiya rattle-can white primer on the grills… Oh yeah? Where are the bits of random spray then and why aren't there any lumps? Impressive as always. Sickening, but impressive. I doff my hat to you matey, again 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Those grills look even more splendid after a dusting of paint. I had originally just typed "look splendid", but fearful of the eyes of @Ex-FAAWAFU and @Martian Hale I thought better of it. They know why! Terry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Nice work on the grills they really look part of the airframe with the primer coat on! Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Ex-FAAWAFU said: It’s a bit like that wacky “what would Jesus do?” movement in the States a few years back, only adjusted for BM: “It’s Bill’s fault”. Works for me. I’m with Hendie; comparing your immaculate close-up Hawks with barely a hint of stray glue, scratches from slipped scalpel/chisel, or smears of filler... with the wreckage of Ark Royal seen in close-up elsewhere on this forum... how the Hell do you do it? Not knowing the answer to this I fear to provide photography of a certain bescratchered Chinwokka anymore How the hell? I don't know but I suppose it gives me another thing to aspire to/fear... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 10, 2019 Author Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, CedB said: Oh yeah? Where are the bits of random spray then and why aren't there any lumps? There were Ced, there were (note to self - clean the airbrush more often and more attentively)- they just got a severe case of micro-mesh.......And it's just that I'm anal enough to tidy up as I go along rather than leaving it to the end..... Actually. I was to begin with a little bit unhappy with the depth and obviousness of the scribed edge/gap of the recess around the grille; so I reduced the depth/filled the gap using a brush dipped in the decanted Tamiya white primer and allowing capillary action to draw the primer off the brush into the gap. I did this several times (it dries very quickly) and it nicely reduced the depth/partially reduced the gap. So - just tackled and issue that's been troubling me. For some reason the outer wing tips of the Hawks have drooped/curved down a little. As here: Not hugely and not terribly obviously unless you sight along them (I wonder now if they were like that from when I first glued them together?) But just at that sort of extent that makes you think: am I imagining it? Do I need to bother doing anything about it? etc etc. Anyways. It bugged me. And that sense of being bugged increased so I did something about it. I dipped each wing into a cup of freshly boiled water for c.30 secs and then gently straightened it between my fingers and held the wing under the cold tap. Took a couple of goes, but it has straightened out. Actually the aileron tip now curves slightly up! But I can straighten that without recourse to heat. Thankfully no added-on etch or resin bits were sacrificed in the making of this production...... Hope the correction is permanent.... I did practise first on a bit of Airfix plastic to make sure it was feasible. Done one Hawk and I'll do the second if it looks as if the correction on the first one holds..... Edited September 10, 2019 by Fritag 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedB Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Ah, taking photos at the end - great tip! Those wings have probably drooped from being left too long on a sunny bench? Good recovery though Steve, hopefully they'll stay straight… fingers crossed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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