Winded Penguin Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 My recent decaling job was a walk in the park compared to this. Phenomenal outcome here👍 1
giemme Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Neat decals job, Steve - they both look gorgeous! Ciao 1
woody37 Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Lovely finish Steve. Getting these done for Christmas would be a lovely present from you to us for the festive day! Less holidays and more bench time please sir 😝 Enjoy the galivant 4
81-er Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 I'm very glad to see you managed to find enough time between holidays to not only finish decalling, but also to update us on your progress. The Hawks are looking very good indeed James 1
perdu Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Hmm, OK I suppose. And here in the real, non-leisure time obsessed, world they look fabulous. Point of order, becos I dont know in which order these things are done, will you be attaching the flaps and prementioned gun pack before you oil dot? For consistncy of appearance if nothing else, will you oil dot the other hanging off bits or will you expect wheel bay doors to miss specific inspection? Paris. Oh yes very definitely jealous, but unless G renews her passport will never be able to wander the fabulous streets, pop into cafes and even dine in that little cafe on the junction of the Rue De Cambron where you have to watch your shoes when you pop in to spend a penny down a porcelain hole in the floor. I absolutely luuurve Paris. Enjoy. 4
Stramash Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Cracking stuff. I'm actually at a dinner in the RAF Club this evening, and will be knocking about in the Running Horse Tavern afterwards! 1
Fritag Posted November 4, 2022 Author Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Stramash said: at a dinner in the RAF Club this evening, and will be knocking about in the Running Horse Tavern afterwards! What about tomorrow night? I simplified the chronology of the hols a bit for the sake of brevity. I’m actually stopping over with my dad tonight in Southend and joining Mrs F tomorrow. I’ll probably arrive at the club about lunchtime. 2
Stramash Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Fritag said: What about tomorrow night? I simplified the chronology of the hols a bit for the sake of brevity. I’m actually stopping over with my dad tonight in Southend and joining Mrs F tomorrow. I’ll probably arrive at the club about lunchtime. Unfortunately not, my day is full tomorrow (morning taken up with post-dinner recovery I expect . . ). Pity, perhaps another time? 1
bigbadbadge Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 They look absolutely splendid , a lovely pair. Great job Chris 1
Hamden Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 A stunning pair of Hawks well worth ALL the time and your trouble with this splendid duo! Stay safe Roger
stevehnz Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 Hawks looking superb in their markings, the checkers on the camo one really set it off a treat. 👍 Hmmm Paris, haven't been there for nearly 40 years, great memories of blasting up the Champs-Elysees in a 300hp Mercedes , with 50 passengers. Steve. 5
TheBaron Posted November 4, 2022 Posted November 4, 2022 What better way to celebrate the quality of that last post than Paris? Bon voyage mon fauconnier! 3
Fritag Posted November 4, 2022 Author Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) On 11/3/2022 at 9:24 PM, mark.au said: I’m curious as to whether there’s another layer to your enjoyment in these models having actually flown these airframes? I don’t think so for me, Mark. To me the enjoyment is in the making of the model and not any historical association with the airframe. I think my memory of the joy of flying a Hawk (and joy it most surely was) is a quite separate thing. On 11/3/2022 at 9:25 PM, Terry1954 said: One question. Many moons ago, we had sight of some work on the TWU Hawk gun pack. Is this to be fitted? There is a gun pack in the future of TWU Hawk. Currently it is part-painted and not weathered. I’ll weather/finish it separately and stick it on later. The gun pack was an occasional bolt on extra for the Hawk. At the TWU they were only fitted when we were going to the range to strafe a ground target (good fun but harder than it looked) or firing air-to-air at a ‘flag’ towed by another Hawk (too much like hard work to be fun and nearly impossible to hit the bl**dy thing). Strafing in a Jag was rather more reliably accurate owing to the radar altimeter and most particularly (in places you were allowed to use it) owing to the laser range finder. It was quite an experience to have two built-in 30mm Aden cannons hammering away at the same time. Letting rip with two 30 mm Adens cannons loaded with HE shells against old tanks at Otterburn or Spadeadam or some such range from low level was a proper boys-own sort of thrill. IIRC that is 21 hours ago, perdu said: Point of order, becos I dont know in which order these things are done, will you be attaching the flaps and prementioned gun pack before you oil dot? For consistncy of appearance if nothing else, will you oil dot the other hanging off bits or will you expect wheel bay doors to miss specific inspection? Ok Bill, so. Shan’t be oil dotting so much as filtering with the odd bit of dotting. But the dotting won’t be multicoloured dotting just a bit of light/dark grey to suggest dirt and rain staining. If you see what I mean Might fit the flaps - if I can be bothered or feel inlined. But might do them separately and stick em on after. I’m decisive that way I will weather the cbls, pylons and wheel bay doors. But again probably separately, for ease. I have these various bits gloss coated and ready to be decalled and oilified: And these undercarriage door bits partly painted: With spares cos delicate bits keep getting snapped orf… And somewhere in a container are the undercarriage legs and wheels built and painted long in the distant past. Hope they fit… Hope I can find them… More after Paris… Edited November 5, 2022 by Fritag 17 1
perdu Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Well you might not be able to find the undercart bits, but you'll always have Paris. 6
keefr22 Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Fritag said: Hope I can find them… Doesn't matter if you can't, you can always print better ones.... Enjoy Paris! Keith 2 1
Paulaero Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Nice job on the nose, so often see the clear part added at the end of a build without blending it in so only the extreme end is clear, mind you if you can't get it right .... 5 1
Fritag Posted November 14, 2022 Author Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) As Johnny @The Spadgent said over on his Firefly thread it was good to meet/see again notable (sic ) fellow Britmodellers at SMW on Saturday; although why people kept photobombing me when Ian @Brandy was trying to take my photo I can't imagine . And (referencing Johnny's thread again) as one who was (unrepentantly) giving Andy @general melchett an ear-bashing about reviving the big Bucc I think it would indeed be impolite of him not to get the thing back on the bench asap... Just saying. Oh and thanks Ced @CedB and Bill @perdu for the beer Anyways after a good week that encompassed a couple of nights in London, a few nights in Paris and an overnight in Shrewsbury to attend SMW, it was back to work today. And straight into work-avoidance behaviour by mucking about with some Hawk sub-assemblies. I've finished finishing (as t'were) the removable bits; i.e. the gun pack, pylons, CBLS and 4kg practice bombs. By finishing I mean sticking on a few decals (hopefully) where appropriate, a modicum of Flory and a filter and dot or two of oil. All secured with my current favourite clear coats - Tamiya lacquer (take your pick from gloss, semi gloss and flat): The thing about the removable bits is that they did get a fair bit of (grubby) handling and so did get a bit dirty Gun pod: IIRC this originated as part of a matchbox kit. If I was doing it again I'd draw one in fusion and print it. At least it will be semi hidden away underneath the TWU Hawk A mixture of ochre oil filtering, pencil work (4B mainly) and tiny oil dotting with mig 'starship filth' and medium grey; all thinned as required with W&N sansadoor, The gun-metal finish on the gun barrel was done with a 9B pencil, burnished with a cotton swab and sealed with a gloss coat. Quite pleased with the look. 4kg practice bombs: Still can't quite believe they printed successfully. Not much to say. I coloured in the black nose caps using a Stabilo fine black permanent marker. Light Flory wash and a black pin wash around the retaining claws for good measure. I haven't tried to pick out the retaining claws in a separate colour as they're too small to be able to do it neatly and the bombs look fine as they are. Pylons: TBH I'm quite pleased with these. The details I designed in with Fusion have popped out nicely with a bit of a Flory wash. Otherwise some oil dotting with 'starship filth' and then stippled to try and represent a bit of a grubby-fingered look. CBLS: More Fusion/Mars 3 home-brew bits. Flory wash and a bit of oil filtering on the hatches. The black nose paint was reproduced with pencil. The 9B is really quite black and it's very controllable; easier than trying to paint it. And the real things were quite roughly painted so that perfection was not required. Happily. Also used a pencil to add some shadow/shading. Oil dotting with tiny dots of 'starship filth' and medium grey followed by stippling on the nose sections in particular; to try and capture the slightly mottled look that camo-painted objects have when reflecting the light; especially if a bit dirty from rain and grubby hands etc. I'm quietly pleased with the result. And the practice bombs in situ: And the pylon/CBLS sub assembly: Unforgiving close-up : More fun than working; if less remunerative..... Edited November 14, 2022 by Fritag 28
Procopius Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Fritag said: Anyways after a good week that encompassed a couple of nights in London, a few nights in Paris and an overnight in Shrewsbury to attend SMW, it was back to work today. And straight into work-avoidance behaviour by mucking about with some Hawk sub-assemblies. Class! Glamour! ...Telford? As you're 3D-printing this stuff, I don't suppose you're selling or thinking of selling the STLs anywhere? As always, your modelling is...well, not an inspiration, in the same way that a baby-oiled bodybuilder is not an inspiration to someone with my physique, but certainly an achievement close to the pinnacle of human endeavour in the field. 3 5
81-er Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 That's some impressive work on the stores, Steve. I'll have to give the pencil for gunmetal trick a try. James 1
giemme Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Fritag said: The gun-metal finish on the gun barrel was done with a 9B pencil, burnished with a cotton swab and sealed with a gloss coat. Quite pleased with the look. Filed away that idea for future uses immediately - much obliged, Steve Other than that, what a masterful weathering on those sparse bits! You're getting really good at this.... Ciao 2 1
TheBaron Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 You must feel rightly pleased with this latest Smörgåsbord of colour and lustre Steve - particularly with such a significant amount of it worn by your exquisite printed components. 21 minutes ago, Fritag said: the pylon/CBLS sub assembly: - is just the business, it really is. 1
Galligraphics Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, Fritag said: I'm quietly pleased with the result If I'd produced anything as good as that little lot, I think I'd be getting quite noisy about it...
Terry1954 Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 Very nice looking stores and pylons Steve. Little works of art. I realise you likely have a 1/48 Defiant TT build somewhere in your future, but I wondered if you spotted this one in the competition area at the weekend.......... I took a few more close ups of the detail, so if you click on the link you can tab through them on my Flickr feed. Has to be done one day soon surely ................ just saying. 🤔 Terry 3 3
Procopius Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 2:54 AM, Fritag said: And I’ve followed advice and got a couple of softer pencils - 4B and 9B, to experiment with. Well, those look nice, perhaps I should buy a f---JESUS CHRIST 11
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