Galligraphics Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 18 hours ago, Fritag said: Definitely, unmistakably, indisputably painting now.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Both Hawks look very good Steve. I am impatiently waiting to see the result of "marble preshading". It seems that you will complete this project before reaching 200 pages!.. Serkan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 10, 2022 Author Share Posted September 10, 2022 (edited) On 9/9/2022 at 5:46 PM, Biggles87 said: I think I should have been a fighter controller!  Speaking of fighter controllers.  At Coltishall we shared an officers mess with the FC’s from RAF Neatished and they were a great bunch; so much fun indeed that I married one…  They were also jolly useful in helping poor radar-less jag mates find a Victor or VC10 tanker over the North Sea.  TWU Hawk is now wearing some dark sea grey:   Attempted as much as possible to leave the dark green sections free of the DSG.   There’s an understand variegated effect which I’m hoping to hang on to.  Edited September 10, 2022 by Fritag typo 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 Looking good!  1 hour ago, Fritag said: Attempted as much as possible to leave the dark green sections free of the DSG.  I like that approach. I've not successfully replicated this pre shading malarky, but when I do (blind optimism again) I must remember that for two tone camouflage like this. Will you freehand the green?  Sounds like you got on very well with those fighter controllers!  T.    1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.au Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Fritag said: …variegated effect… I like both the look and the sound of that.   This build had me looking at Hawk kits on my last visit to BNA (Aussie online modelling retailer) but I’m quite sure I couldn’t follow yours, especially in this scale. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Laidlaw Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 This thread had become one of the few constants in my life, and now look - paint! If there's paint, it will end, and then what? We'll be cast adrift in a sea of uncertainty, with no expectation of what The Fritag will bestow on us next. Â Anyway, nice pre-variegating. Looking forward to seeing the full effect under the DG/DSG. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Fritag said: There’s an understand variegated effect which I’m hoping to hang on to. I love that! Nice and subtle, yet there.    Very much looking forward to the rest of painting  Ciao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Just now, giemme said: Very much looking forward to the rest of painting Ditto  Because that should mean the ultimate Jaguar will arrive soon after, probably entailing a new nose for the Hasegawa overlong-nosed jobbie. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81-er Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Excellent start on the paintwork, Steve. The subtle variations are working nicely.  23 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: It seems that you will complete this project before reaching 200 pages!.. I think you're fogetting that it'll take at least abother 10 pages to finish the paintwork, and then at least another 30 for the weathering...  James 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serkan Sen Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 54 minutes ago, 81-er said: On 9/10/2022 at 3:26 PM, Serkan Sen said: Â I think you're fogetting that it'll take at least abother 10 pages to finish the paintwork, and then at least another 30 for the weathering... As long as Steve finishes this project before my retirement (within next 15 years) it is fine. Serkan 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I tried pre-shading but to no avail, so I found post shading gives very good results when you lighten and darken the original colour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 11, 2022 Author Share Posted September 11, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Terry1954 said: Will you freehand the green?  No, nope, non, nein, niet and not a chance.  Have neither the equipment nor the skills for that  Plus, whilst the camouflage edge is definitely a soft one on the Hawk, at 1/72 scale distances  it effectively looks so much like a hard edge that even if I did have the equipment and skills I don't think it would be scale appropriate.  I’ve printed several copies of the scale colour plans from the Hawk Aeroguide publication; and the plan is to cut out paper masks and use ultra thin sausages of blue tack along the edge of the masks - and then to airbrush perpendicularly.  Paint-mule test:    In other words the good old fashioned technique we've all used from time immemorial.  If I get the thinnest of barely visible soft edges doing it this way then that’ll be a bonus.  15 hours ago, mark.au said: This build had me looking at Hawk kits on my last visit to BNA (Aussie online modelling retailer) but I’m quite sure I couldn’t follow yours, especially in this scale.  Ha. On current form you’d knock off a gob-smacker in a week; and I’d just have to live with having been the support act  14 hours ago, John Laidlaw said: If there's paint, it will end, and then what? We'll be cast adrift in a sea of uncertainty  On ‘tother hand it might be like finally having got rid of an irritating earworm (aka stuck song syndrome, apparently) after way, way too long….  10 hours ago, giemme said: Very much looking forward to the rest of painting  Bloomin ‘eck G, I’ve been working at nose-bleed inducing pace by my standards as it is…….  10 hours ago, perdu said: probably entailing a new nose for the Hasegawa overlong-nosed jobbie.  But I’m planning OOB…  5 hours ago, 81-er said: I think you're fogetting that it'll take at least abother 10 pages to finish the paintwork, and then at least another 30 for the weathering...  When I started this thread people had patience and let a good story develop slowly….. Nowadays people’s attention spans are much shorter….  4 hours ago, Serkan Sen said: As long as Steve finishes this project before my retirement (within next 15 years) it is fine.  Imposing artificially short time limits can be very stressful you know Serkan…  3 hours ago, kev67 said: I tried pre-shading but to no avail, so I found post shading gives very good results when you lighten and darken the original colour  One of the beauties of the hobby is the number of different routes there are to try and reach the same destination.  I may well do a bit of post-shading on this one,  if I lose too much of the pre-mottling with the DG coat,  although it’ll be a tricky task given the small are to aim at on 1/72 camo.  I like the principle of the pre-shade mottle because of the opportunity of experimenting with different colours.  The plan is for most of the post-camo work to be done using oils - like with the USAAF Spit Vb.    Edited September 11, 2022 by Fritag 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perdu Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Fritag said: But I’m planning OOB… "He lied"  No worries.  We'll wait... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Fritag said: Bloomin ‘eck G, I’ve been working at nose-bleed inducing pace by my standards as it is……. Looks like you are keeping on with that pace, though (even if on a paint mule, but still... )  Ciao 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gondor44 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 9/11/2022 at 5:16 PM, Fritag said:  Plus, whilst the camouflage edge is definitely a soft one on the Hawk, at 1/72 scale distances  it effectively looks so much like a hard edge that even if I did have the equipment and skills I don't think it would be scale appropriate.   That is something that a lot of modellers seem to forget and then overdo things which looks totally unrealistic.  Gondor 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBaron Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 'Pilgrims in Anticipation of Hawk Variegation' Looking forwards very much to seeing those paint effects develop Steve. Good luck with this next step! Â 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fritag Posted September 16, 2022 Author Share Posted September 16, 2022 A lot of lawyering had to be done this week which weren’t awfully compatible with finding time for the fiddlyness of Hawk camo in 1/72; but one has managed to make a start.  Doing a mini (very mini) approximation of @TheBaron and studying photo’s of the subject made me notice a modeller-friendly feature of the wrap around camo.  Every jet is different!  Looking at this line up of 63 squadron jets you can see that whilst the essential pattern is the same the paint is obviously applied freehand in the paint shop cos the boundary edges of the patterns are all just a bit different.  It’s particularly evident in the ‘S’ shaped curve under the cockpit on the starboard side.  No two are the same!    Which basically means that yer modeller doesn’t ‘ave to be too particular wiv the placing of ‘is blue tack sausages.  Result!  Anyroad up.  We begin:  These green patches have had a squirt of klear-cote as we go along to protect them from handling as things progress.  Subtle variegation preserved so far…   The rather clumsy Fritag technique   Got lots of stick-it notes laying around seeing as it’s all paperless working these days.   Another one done.  Not klear-coted yet.   It’s doomed to look a bit toy-like until the post paint oil work.  And some bits and bobs whilst we’re at it.   Proving to be quite time consuming.  Enjoying painting again.  But fed up with blue-tack already; and not looking forward to masking Valley Hawk   Why do we do this?     27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy Bird Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Bits and bobs are a good thing. But be careful with Bob - he's someone's uncle (as I read on this forum daily). Â Cheers, Bill 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giemme Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Ah, interesting masking technique - not for the lazy one though (not for me, then... )  Camo looking the biz so far   Ciao 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark.au Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Fritag said: Enjoying painting again You remember the last time you painted?  The green bits look sufficiently variegated indeed.  I’m particularly enamoured with your masking as well, I achieve my variegation by continually fixing overspray; your process seems more grown up. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAMP man Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I was getting a bit worried all of a sudden we're at x 2 speed and paint being splashed about willi-nhilli. I have a small wager that this one will go bi-centenial, so quite happy to hear probility of procrastination regarding weathering. Green and gray whats not to like?  Box on  Strickers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete in Lincs Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 8:25 PM, Fritag said:  At Coltishall we shared an officers mess with the FC’s from RAF Neatished I was in North Norfolk yesterday and happened upon Coltishall village on my way back West. We also deliver to the pub in Neatishead. The Black Horse I think. You have to roll some steps to one side to get into the beer cellar! Neat design. Nice work with the masking and paint. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry1954 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Very impressive and patient progress. Love it. Â Valley Hawk masking will of course be key to the success of that scheme, but nothing you can't sort Steve! Â Proper paint on a Hawk, who'd have thought! Â T. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06/24 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Fritag said: It’s doomed to look a bit toy-like until the post paint oil work. Wish my toys looked half so good! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamden Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022  TWU Hawk is coming to life now that it has started to receive its colour coat, looking forward to seeing it completed together with the Valley Hawk, they will be a stunning pair!      Stay safe      Roger  2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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