Biggles87 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Thanks Peter, that really does help. I was attracted to this scheme by the artwork and the serial number ( JG ) so now I just have to decide which one to do. I always think of RAAF Spitfire Vcs with the big filter, so that’s probably what I’ll go for. Wonderful people Britmodellers. always someone there to help. Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I have a mpm spitfire xix hanging around that’s not going to be built nor have been able to offload it, would I be right in thinking i could cut the nose and tail and combine with an AZ bubbletop fuselage to create a XIV lowback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 If you find a suitable wing, and do some other stuff, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 2 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: I have a mpm spitfire xix hanging around that’s not going to be built nor have been able to offload it, would I be right in thinking i could cut the nose and tail and combine with an AZ bubbletop fuselage to create a XIV lowback? It depends on which MPM 19 you have as they did two - one based on a Czech resin kit and a later one with the wing from their PRXI and a warmed over Fujimi Griffon Spit fuselage. The latter is quite workable, the former has some shape issues. TBH, whilst the onversion work is fairly straightforward and easy enough, I personally wouldn't bother due to the availability of the Sword 14 lowback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 (edited) @The Wooksta! it’s the millennium collection version whichever that is, as for the sword, seems to have dried up, hence the conversion idea Edited January 3, 2020 by PhantomBigStu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt-92 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 17 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: as for the sword, seems to have dried up, hence the conversion idea You may be lucky here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 On 1/3/2020 at 12:26 AM, PhantomBigStu said: @The Wooksta! it’s the millennium collection version whichever that is, as for the sword, seems to have dried up, hence the conversion idea That's the second version and the fuselage is a warmed over Fujimi one. It's not a bad 19 as it goes and builds quite nicely, but the vacform canopies have a nasty tendency to turn gold - I've quite a few salted away and they've done that. If you're intent on the conversion, I'd go with the far easier option of cutting down the spine on the 19 and use laminated card and sanding to get the low back. Then you can either scribe the wing for the guns or just do a wing transplant from the AZ kit or even better a Heller 16, as the radiators are the right depth for Griffon Spits, remembering to shorten the ailerons (or you can cheat by stealing them from an Eduard mk IX - steal the better u/c doors from there too). This means you still have the rather nice AZ fuselage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Wooksta! said: That's the second version and the fuselage is a warmed over Fujimi one. It's not a bad 19 as it goes and builds quite nicely, but the vacform canopies have a nasty tendency to turn gold - I've quite a few salted away and they've done that. If you're intent on the conversion, I'd go with the far easier option of cutting down the spine on the 19 and use laminated card and sanding to get the low back. Then you can either scribe the wing for the guns or just do a wing transplant from the AZ kit or even better a Heller 16, as the radiators are the right depth for Griffon Spits, remembering to shorten the ailerons (or you can cheat by stealing them from an Eduard mk IX - steal the better u/c doors from there too). This means you still have the rather nice AZ fuselage. It’s late and I’m a half asleep/drunk but that doesn’t sound simpler than mating a the mpm nose and tail to the aZ fuselage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 In the long run it's easier. If you're trying to do a nose/tail conversion from one fuselage to another, what happens if you botch the cuts or the fuselages are different sizes? My method means that if you botch it, you've only ruined one fuselage and it's fixable with filler/more plastic card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, The Wooksta! said: In the long run it's easier. If you're trying to do a nose/tail conversion from one fuselage to another, what happens if you botch the cuts or the fuselages are different sizes? My method means that if you botch it, you've only ruined one fuselage and it's fixable with filler/more plastic card. Makes sense, think I will now do a heller mpm hybrid, and then a fictional bubbletop PR winged spitfire with the left over healer fuselage and mpm wing. edit: here we go @The Wooksta! Edited January 5, 2020 by PhantomBigStu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Jeras Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Please help, I am making a model of Spitfire Mk IXc MH654. I have doubt on the typ of the oil cooler, it is not visible on the photograph. Is typ of the oil cooler related to engine model? I know that engine is Merlin 63. Thank you for help. Marko Jeras Zagreb, Croatia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gingerbob Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Do you mean intake, under the cowl? Mk.IXs all have the same oil cooler appearance (symmetrical "radiator boxes" under the wings). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 MH489 had the larger Aerovee air intake, but this was an LF.Mk.IX with a Merlin 66. As MH654 was destined for North Africa I would assume that at this time it also had the Aerovee as this includes the tropical filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, PhantomBigStu said: Makes sense, think I will now do a heller mpm hybrid, and then a fictional bubbletop PR winged spitfire with the left over healer fuselage and mpm wing. edit: here we go @The Wooksta! Looking good so far. I'm not sure how well the MPM fuselage will take the Heller wing as it's not one I've tried - the cutouts at the back are different, with the MPM having more of the lower fuselage. It definitely takes the CMR wings spare in several of their mk IX kits. Looking forward to seeing this progress. You will need to replace the Heller wheels though as they're a strange hybrid of wartime diameter with post war three spoke hubs. IIRC there's a spare set or two in with the AZ lowback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Jeras Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, Graham Boak said: MH489 had the larger Aerovee air intake, but this was an LF.Mk.IX with a Merlin 66. As MH654 was destined for North Africa I would assume that at this time it also had the Aerovee as this includes the tropical filter. My mistake, indeed I was thinking on engine air intake... Thank you for answers. This sound logical 🙂 What about rivets on wings leading edge? Where they flush with airfoil, puttied and invisible? Edited January 6, 2020 by Marko Jeras Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marko Jeras said: What about rivets on wings leading edge? Where they flush with airfoil, puttied and invisible? Yes, on every Spitfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomBigStu Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Will start a WIP thread at some point @The Wooksta!once I get the real work going and have the heller kit in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominikS Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 I have a question about Spitfire Mk.Vb/c oil cooler shape. I always thought that I know it but quite recently Airfix have shown their new Spit Vc 3D renders and the shape ot their oil cooler is quite interesting. Especially its aft part with some kind of wide opening. Is there something I didn't know before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 56 minutes ago, DominikS said: I have a question about Spitfire Mk.Vb/c oil cooler shape. I always thought that I know it but quite recently Airfix have shown their new Spit Vc 3D renders and the shape ot their oil cooler is quite interesting. Especially its aft part with some kind of wide opening. Is there something I didn't know before? See response here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Jeras Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Continuing my research of Tamiya 1/32 Spitfire Mk.IXc model, I find this odd...is this complete and utterly wrong underwing gun cover??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Marko Jeras said: Continuing my research of Tamiya 1/32 Spitfire Mk.IXc model, I find this odd...is this complete and utterly wrong underwing gun cover??? Is that the only one in the kit? If not,, this maybe a spare, perhaps this is for an E wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marko Jeras Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 This should be for C wing, but it has bulges for both C and E wing guns, this should not have existed...even that small ejection opening next to the panel, just by wheel well, what is that for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anj4de Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Hello all I have a question around the demarcation between the green and the silver in the back of the cockpit. Some sources say the silver started right behind the seat bulk head, others state that it only started after the rear cockpit window. Hence kit producers also give different paint instructions. is there a general rule which version has waht, where they all the same, and giudelines? thanks Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Smith Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, anj4de said: Hello all I have a question around the demarcation between the green and the silver in the back of the cockpit. Some sources say the silver started right behind the seat bulk head, others state that it only started after the rear cockpit window. Hence kit producers also give different paint instructions. is there a general rule which version has waht, where they all the same, and giudelines? thanks Uwe This is actually a broader questions about internal colours. At some point in 1943 there was a change of internal colours. Up till then, all the interior APART from the cockpit was to be aluminium paint (or dope) AFAIK, the aluminium paint starts behind the seat, as only the cockpit was specified to be Grey Green. All the interior includes the inside of the flaps and inner leg part of wheel well,(not visible when UC retracted) the wheel part is external, (visible when wheel retracted) and is the underside colour. After 1943 there was a switch, and all interior areas were Grey Green. @anj4de For the Mk.18 you are planning, all Grey Green. Examples Mk.IX in 1943, aluminium oil tank Mk.VIII in italy in 44, Note aluminium oil tank and engine bearers late mk.IX, note oil tank and engine bearers are Grey Green. Spitfire Mk. IIA, 1941. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr if you enlarge this, you can see the Grey Green armour plate, and aluminium frame at rear of canopy Spitfire Mk.V cockpit. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr note aluminium painted bar at top of canopy Spitfire cockpit, 1943. by Etienne du Plessis, on Flickr same again HTH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anj4de Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Thanks a lot for the explanation and especially for the pics! Since I have multible Spitfires in various stages on the assenbly line this info comes in very handy! So my Eduard Mk.VIII will be all green inside. The picture of the Mk IIa in flight is the absolute burner... 🙂 thanks Uwe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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