Camal697 Posted March 11, 2015 Posted March 11, 2015 Here's a photo of a repainted Bolingbroke IVT 9892 at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum, Rockcliffe (Ottawa), Ontario, Canada. It may be hard to see, but there's a definite bump on the top of the starboard nacelle. You can also just see the outline of the raft container on the port nacelle, which appears to be longer... (but its hard to tell in this view). I may have better views buried in my archives. If I find them. I'll post. Cheers! 2
SimonL Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 I have just started building the Airfix Mk 1. I purchased the Xtradecal sheet X72-202, which left me in such a quandary as to which one to do I had to go and buy another kit Now I am going to do the first in the FAA colours, but for the second I rather fancy L6670/UQ-R, 211 Squadron, Menidi, Late 1940. She is shown finished in dark earth/middle stone on the top over either Sky Type S or light Mediterranean Blue. My question is in two parts: (1)What does the collective think? Which of those underside colours is more likely? (2) I brush paint using Tamiya acrylics, although I am beginning to branch out to Italeri Acrylics now as well. Anyone have ideas as to what would be an appropriate mix for the light Mediterranean blue? I usually use XF-21 for Sky, I have had look around and frankly get a bit lost with some of the discussions. Would that be suitable for Sky Type S? Much appreciated for any pointers. Simon
johnd Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Tamiya XF-21 is the correct match for Sky Type S (note the Type S bit refers to the finish rather than the colour). Some people don't find it very convincing, being too green but it's quite close to my eye. As fas as I know there is no Tamiya match for Light Mediterranean Blue. Apparently the old formulation of Humbrol 157 Azure Blue is a close match for it. They've now changed it to better represent Azure Blue though, so that's not helpful really unless you know someone with old stocks. John.
SimonL Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Thanks John, I thought as much for Sky. I am happy to mix different Tamiya paints - but I don't even know what colour light mediterranean blue looks like!
johnd Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 The IPMS colour chart gives an FS number for it. British paint wasn't formulated to Federal Standard so it probably isn't exact but it will look something like this: http://www.colorserver.net/showcolor.asp?fs=35177 . I have no idea how to replicate that using Tamiya colours though. John. 1
Graham Boak Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 For a start, it is not particularly light. Think of it as a somewhat bluer version of PRU Blue, which in comparison looks greyer. WEM produced it, so you may be able to pick up a tin, or else wait for the Colourcoats range to come back on sale: it is being arranged. 1
SimonL Posted March 25, 2015 Posted March 25, 2015 Thanks Graham and John, thats very helpful. Now I just have to decide sky or blue?
brewerjerry Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Here's a photo of a repainted Bolingbroke IVT 9892 at the Canada Aviation and Space Museum, Rockcliffe (Ottawa), Ontario, Canada. It may be hard to see, but there's a definite bump on the top of the starboard nacelle. You can also just see the outline of the raft container on the port nacelle, which appears to be longer... (but its hard to tell in this view). I may have better views buried in my archives. If I find them. I'll post. Cheers! Hi Interesting, what are the nacelles on the airfix kit, blenheim or boli ? Cheers Jerry
Kari Lumppio Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Hi Interesting, what are the nacelles on the airfix kit, blenheim or boli ? Cheers Jerry Hello! I would also like to know. The Airfix nacelle bulges above the cowling height which is not correct for any Finnish Blenheim (which are what I care for). I think Airfix Blenheim nacelles are made according the Duxford example, which is a Bolingbroke. Also the main wheels are from Short 360 (I think - correct me if I am wrong). Perhaps the nacelles have been made larger to house the "Dunlop heavy duty 36 x 1200 main wheel tyres"? See the Airworthiness Approval note for Bolingbroke Mk.IV IVT G-BVIP: http://www.caa.co.uk/aandocs/21124/21124020000.pdf Cheers, Kari
Flyboy72nd Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Hi Interesting, what are the nacelles on the airfix kit, blenheim or boli ? Cheers Jerry They are Blenheim. If you look at the pic provided you can see the Boli mods. If you look at the r/h engine nacelle the hump back is obvious. When you look back towards the rear of the nacelle on the wing on the right side you can see a small teardrop hump and some 'black rectangles'. I looked for these on the kit wing and they are there. If you now look at the l/h engine nacelle you can just see one of those 'black restangles' towards the rear of the nacelle and in line vertically with the oil cooler outlet on the engine. This gives you an approximation of how far the nacelle was extended.
JohnMacG Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 A few odds'n'ends regarding Malayan Blenheims - I've just bought the Airdix Blenheim I - nice kit, but with a few niggles: no radios behind the gunner's seat, they have moulded the sliding pilot's hood together with the upper cockpit glazing so a little careful sawing is required. Aldo for a Malayan Blenheim you'll need the Quickboost white metal air intake set, as mentioned in another thread. The small intakes mounted above the nacelles aren't included in this set, so you'll have to resort to the spares box. Noiw, questions - Pilots seat harness: photos I have of Blenheim I's seat harness seem to show merely a lap belt. By late 41 did Malayan Blenheims have a 'full' RAF-type seat harness? Likewise the observer (sitting beside the pilot) - lap belt or full harness? And what kind of harness did the gunner have in his turret? The bombers had all-black undersides: but did they have the underwing roundels? Photos seem to show both yes & no. The surviving Blenheims in Singspore had their single VGO turret gun replaced by twin Brownings. Anybody know when? Lastly, Blenheim IV V5581 - anyone know it's service history?
brewerjerry Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Hello! I would also like to know. The Airfix nacelle bulges above the cowling height which is not correct for any Finnish Blenheim (which are what I care for). I think Airfix Blenheim nacelles are made according the Duxford example, which is a Bolingbroke. Also the main wheels are from Short 360 (I think - correct me if I am wrong). Perhaps the nacelles have been made larger to house the "Dunlop heavy duty 36 x 1200 main wheel tyres"? See the Airworthiness Approval note for Bolingbroke Mk.IV IVT G-BVIP: http://www.caa.co.uk/aandocs/21124/21124020000.pdf Cheers, Kari Hi Interesting that they are a different shape. cheers jerry
Graham Boak Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 V5581 went to 84 Sq/FE No Further Trace 1.2.42.
Walter Lindekens Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Noiw, questions - Pilots seat harness: photos I have of Blenheim I's seat harness seem to show merely a lap belt. By late 41 did Malayan Blenheims have a 'full' RAF-type seat harness? Likewise the observer (sitting beside the pilot) - lap belt or full harness? And what kind of harness did the gunner have in his turret? Sutton harness for pilot introduced 10.12.1939 - Blenheim Mk IV Modification Nr 413 but as with some other Mk IV mods I suspect this applies to the Mk I too. Both observer and Wop/Ag had the broad lap strap. Cheers, Walter 1
leyreynolds Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 I've done some research on the differences visible on the Bolingbroke. If anyone would like a copy of my conclusions contact me at [email protected].
A30_737_AEW&C Posted April 25, 2015 Author Posted April 25, 2015 Hello gentlemen, I've another question regarding the Blenheim. Engine cowls. Was the upper cowl effectively a single 180-degree segment ? The Airfix kit breaks the engine cowl into three circumferential segments however. TIA
Walter Lindekens Posted April 26, 2015 Posted April 26, 2015 Hi Alfred, The cowl consisted of two, ie 180° sections only, an upper and a lower. See below drawing out of AP1530 C which covers the Mk V Blenheim but same design applies to Mk I and IV. http://s1116.photobucket.com/user/BLENMKIV/media/DSC_0503.jpg.html Cheers, Walter 1
PhantomBigStu Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 Recall someone mentioning that Airfix didn't have any spare transparencies for the Blenheim, was it just Mkiv or both?
SimonL Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I was after a transparency for a Mk 1 and they said they had none in stock.
PhantomBigStu Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 (edited) damm, guess back into the stash it must go....then again theres is a lot of work to be done before the canopy issue becomes relevent Edited April 30, 2015 by PhantomBigStu
leyreynolds Posted April 30, 2015 Posted April 30, 2015 I wonder if anyone has details of the Teleoptik M.40SP turret fitted to some Yugoslav Blenheims please?
leyreynolds Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Furthermore are there any photo's around of the Blenheim (L1348?) that was trialled as a PR aircraft please?
MilneBay Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 Furthermore are there any photo's around of the Blenheim (L1348?) that was trialled as a PR aircraft please? Try this thread - http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234978388-bristol-blenheim-mk-i-l1348/
oldgit Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Chaps, Looking at the Mk1 Blenheim at Flying Legends recently, I noted that the gunners access hatch, forward of the dorsal turret is glazed. Studying photos of the late second flying MkIV, it’s hatch seemed to be the same. I contacted ARC to ask about the glazed hatch and they told me it was a standard fit. All the hatches I recall seeing on most Blenheim photos seem to be solid. Also, part of the nose glazing seems to be dark earth. Is this painted glazing, or a metal panel? Why? Can anyone kindly advise please? Thanks, Tim
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