bentwaters81tfw Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 My ancient Maintrack P 1121 is on the Ipswich stand this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktjet Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Was lucky enough to see the mortal remains of the P1121 in a hangar on the far side of Cosford airfield in 2000. A humbling experience to be so close to what would have been such an awesome aircraft. I know it's an incomplete fuselage but why nobody has had the idea of dragging it out and parking it next to the TSR.2, I will never understand! I will definitely be buying this book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 (edited) I know it's an incomplete fuselage but why nobody has had the idea of dragging it out and parking it next to the TSR.2, I will never understand! I will definitely be buying this book There are also a 1/8th scale wooden windtunnel model, a 1/48th scale steel high speed wind tunnel model, and 1/6th scale intake model in the RAF Museum stores which combined could make a great display near the EAP. I think its unlikely though from my discussions with Cosford. Note that to fit the page length limit, I could not include all the 5 views by Barrie in the book, these will be made available via my forum to purchasers of the book over the next few weeks. There are a few already there along with lots of photographs of original manufacturer models from various angles I hope will be valuable reference for modelling. Edited November 7, 2015 by overscan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktjet Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 There are also a 1/8th scale wooden windtunnel model, a 1/48th scale steel high speed wind tunnel model, and 1/6th scale intake model in the RAF Museum stores which combined could make a great display near the EAP. I think its unlikely though from my discussions with Cosford. Note that to fit the page length limit, I could not include all the 5 views by Barrie in the book, these will be made available via my forum to purchasers of the book over the next few weeks. There are a few already there along with lots of photographs of original manufacturer models from various angles I hope will be valuable reference for modelling. In your research, did you find out what happened to the wings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted November 7, 2015 Author Share Posted November 7, 2015 In your research, did you find out what happened to the wings? I believe only one wing was completed, and it went to Cranfield in 1961 with the rest. Not sure if it made it to RAF Hadlow or Cosford. If it didn't then it most likely got used for destructive materials testing, a fate that probably also occurred to the nosecone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacktjet Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I believe only one wing was completed, and it went to Cranfield in 1961 with the rest. Not sure if it made it to RAF Hadlow or Cosford. If it didn't then it most likely got used for destructive materials testing, a fate that probably also occurred to the nosecone. Thanks for the info, I only asked as there was a rumour that they were stored at the Yeovilton museum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hurry up with those online ordering details so i can throw my money at you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldroflas Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 What Vlamgat9 said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ptmvarsityfan Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi, purchased my copy at Telford this afternoon and looking through it am hugely impressed. Apart from lots of tech info I am fascinated by the office politics within Hawkers and the early careers of Hooper, Fozard and others. Drawings and illustrations are excellent. Very happy I bought this as it was a bit of a spur of the moment purchase! Cheers, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Hi, purchased my copy at Telford this afternoon and looking through it am hugely impressed. Apart from lots of tech info I am fascinated by the office politics within Hawkers and the early careers of Hooper, Fozard and others. Drawings and illustrations are excellent. Very happy I bought this as it was a bit of a spur of the moment purchase! Cheers, Paul I'm glad you like it. I had a great time talking to people at Telford. Until the website is done, you can buy direct using Paypal from the publisher, Blue Envoy: To order a copy of Hawker P.1103 and P.1121 - Camms' Last Fighter Projects, please send your Paypal payments to: [email protected] Any queries, please drop me a line at the same email address. Costs: Single copies are £11.95 each UK postage will be £1.75 (total = £13.70) EU Postage will be £5.30 (total = £17.25) USA Postage will be £7.60 (total = £19.55) Aus/NZ postage from UK will be £8.00. (£19.95) I will, of course, combine postage and try to minimise the postage costs where possible. Copies of Air Staff and AEW, Admiralty and AEW and Vickers VC10 - AEW, Pofflers and Other Unbuilt Variants are also available at £9.95 each I aim for same day posting when I'm at home. Many thanks Chris Edited November 9, 2015 by overscan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Just ordered my copy. I can hardly wait -- that this book has been written is a dream come true for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Read it this morning - you will love it. Good chat with the author too. (Yesterday at Telford.) Edited November 9, 2015 by Graham Boak 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 Read it this morning - you will love it. Good chat with the author too. (Yesterday at Telford.) Graham, was good to talk to you too, glad an ex-Hawker guy liked the book, I tried to do justice to the subject. I will mention you to Chris Farara tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldroflas Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Order placed! Can't wait for it to arrive now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-FAAWAFU Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Thanks for the info, I only asked as there was a rumour that they were stored at the Yeovilton museum I think the only Hawker prototype wings etc. at Yeovilton are P1081 related. As far as I know, the RN had nothing to do with the 1103/1121, so I'd be surprised if any parts ended up at VL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlamgat9 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 My copy arrived yesterday. Great little book. Lots of interesting detail and fab drawings. Well done Paul and Barrie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted November 12, 2015 Author Share Posted November 12, 2015 (edited) Don't forget to register for the extras on Secret Projects Forum - currently lots of model photos and a couple more of Barrie's drawings, there will be lots more drawings added when I get back to New Zealand. Edited November 12, 2015 by overscan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldroflas Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 That was super fast delivery! My copy arrived today with the VC-10 book and after a very brief look both are massively impressive. I will give them the time they deserve over the weekend. Off to Secret Projects to register! Thanks and congratulations to all involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Ranger Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Went to BookDepository.com to order and was informed the book is temporarily out of stock. Waah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wish I'd seen this during the show, as I'd have walked away with a more credible spend than £5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Went to BookDepository.com to order and was informed the book is temporarily out of stock. Waah! I don't think BookDepository have actually ordered any from the publisher. I know the Aviation Bookshop in Tonbridge Wells (http://www.aviation-bookshop.com) had some copies left after Telford. The best price will almost certainly be direct from the publisher as above, ordering from the publisher also gives a lot more money to the authors than buying from elsewhere. Edited November 13, 2015 by overscan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldroflas Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I can certainly endorse buying directly from the publisher. Mega fast delivery and very well packaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali62 Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I got my book yesterday through the mail, as Colin of Freightdog got one for me at Telford. It is a great book, thanks very much. Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldroflas Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 It is a superb book, full of interesting text, photographs and drawings. Absolutely wonderful and amazing value for the quality of content and reproduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overscan Posted December 4, 2015 Author Share Posted December 4, 2015 It is a superb book, full of interesting text, photographs and drawings. Absolutely wonderful and amazing value for the quality of content and reproduction. Thanks for the feedback, its much appreciated. If you don't want to buy direct from the publisher, these places also have copies: http://www.aviationbookcentre.com/military__jet_era/hawker_p1103__p1121_camms_last_fighter_projects/16533_p.html http://www.aviation-bookshop.com/asp/Releases.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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