Homebee Posted February 18, 2017 Author Share Posted February 18, 2017 (edited) The Sparrow kit - ref.72058 - is on approach Source: https://www.aviationmegastore.com/handley-page-sparrow-expected-march-2017-72058-valom-vaclav-lomitzk-val7258-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=93337 Box art V.P. Edited May 23, 2018 by Homebee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 And the debate as to whther Sparrows had yellow or sky undersides can start......NOW! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 or Bare Metal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 No invasion strips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Look for a later issue: this one has the early-war roundels. I favour Aluminium undersides rather than combat aircraft's Sky. I expect a late-war one with stripes - I'm not sure how much this is something I've already seen or just the obvious choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted March 9, 2017 Author Share Posted March 9, 2017 Released - ref.72058 - Handley Page Sparrow https://www.aviationmegastore.com/handley-page-sparrow-72058-valom-vaclav-lomitzk-8594054290583-aircraft-scale-modelling/product/?action=prodinfo&art=93337 V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) I've picked up my Sparrow and can confirm no long side windows - now to find if these were on the aircraft from the start or a later modification. If so, they may appear on the Normandy boxing, but I'm not betting on it. I've spent an entertaining hour trimming the sprues and trying to make full sense of the instructions and the excess parts provided. I eventually worked out that six peculiar parts were flap hinges: there is no mention of such on the instructions but there are pairs of holes under the wing. However, there are also similar holes for the aileron hinges but these are not provided. I'm still not sure what a couple of the parts are for but they don't seem to belong on the transport. I've yet to compare the kit to the Contrail fuselage, so have that joy to come. This does mean that I have a spare (part-trimmed) Contrail kit with some rather nice spare turrets thrown in. Edit: The Valom fuselage has a similar nose (which I'm not convinced is too wrong) but the proper blunt tail end not the more aerodynamic shape provided by Contrail. The Contrail kit doesn't have extra windows down the fuselage either. The photo I have of B.BJ has extra windows under the wing, but more like airliner windows than the long strip seen on the 1944 machines in the WIP thread. I suspect that this is an individual airframe variation, no idea why. Either way, there are additional windows forward missing from the kit. Edited March 28, 2017 by Graham Boak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 28, 2017 Author Share Posted April 28, 2017 New boxing announced Source: http://www.valom.net/pripravujeme_en.html - ref. 72117 - Handley Page Harrow Mk.II (271. Sqn Normandy) - ref. 72118 - Handley Page Harrow Mk.II (24th Maintenance Unit) V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 (edited) Source: https://www.facebook.com/www.valom.net/photos/a.515115635354850.1073741829.515091222023958/640398502 - ref. 72118 - Handley Page Harrow Mk.II (24th Maintenance Unit 1940) Box art V.P. Edited June 2, 2017 by Homebee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalea Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Is there any chance of 72117 being released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Interesting scheme, but my money is on Yellow not White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 New boxing - ref. 72117 - HP Sparrow Mk.II (No.271 Squadron) Source: http://www.valom.net/?page_id=27 Box art V.P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Great surprise! Looks that it will be full glazing fuselage. I am very glad that I was not fast with buing Sparrow... J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 On 1/22/2018 at 9:49 AM, Graham Boak said: Interesting scheme, but my money is on Yellow not White. Somewhere recently I saw a reasonable arguement for it being (painted) aluminium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) I'd like to see that, but remain unconvinced by the mere suggestion. Aluminium undersides could be correct for a transport, but not with a high demarcation. On the other hand such an appearance is common for trainers, as many of the Harrows were used. Is the serial known? Memory suggests that I looked up this aircraft in The K File and found it at a Bombing & Gunnery School, but without the serial I can't confirm this. PS I'm even less convinced by the scheme in overall NIVO, as Harrows post-dated this and received the DG/DE scheme from new. Edited May 23, 2018 by Graham Boak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 It may have been on here and in relation to transports in general and not just this particular Harrow - my mind is task saturated at the moment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Regarding high demarcation line for transport machines - what colour has this DC 2? If the outer part of roundel i yellow (?) the bottom is not yellow... Cheers J-W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 The yellow of the roundel appears black because of the red in it. So the undersides could perhaps be a lemon-yellow rather than the RAF's Yellow. I can't imagine why it should be, but ... However, given the tailfin, I suggest that it is Aluminium or a previous light grey? It does look as though the camouflage has been freshly added on top of the earlier colour. The ortho film would give a very light appearance to a light blue, such as Sky Blue or even (maybe) Middle East Blue, but that wouldn't fit with the fin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 (edited) Now that's an interesting picture, the serial is from the DG468 to 479 range. Brief history of each: 1314 NC14281 AA, 12/40 DG468, 31Sqd/D; 7/42 VT-AOU; scr. 1315 NC14282 AA, 11/40 DG469; 7/42 VT-AOQ; scr.6/45. 1316 NC14283 AA, (VT-AOR) DG470, 31Sqd/R; scr.11/43. 1244 NC13718 TW, 7/41 (VT-AOS) DG471; W/O 24/10/41. 1402 NC14922 AA, 12/40 (VT-AOT) DG472; scr.8/43. 1308 NC14275 AA/DL, 2/41 (VT-AOV) DG473, 31 Sqdn., W/O 14/6/42. 1401 NC14921 AA, 2/41 (VT-AOW) DG474; W/O 1/42. 1410 NC14294 DL, 2/41 (VT-AOX) DG475, 31 Sqdn., W/O 25/12/41. 1251 NC13725 TW, 2/41 (VT-AOY) DG476, 31Sqd/Y; W/O 8/11/43. 1237 NC13711 TW, 2/41 (VT-AOZ) DG477, 4/41 31Sqdn.; scr. 1403 NC14923 AA/DL, 2/41 DG478/VT-APA, 4/41-4/43, 31 Sqdn.; scr.6/44. 1240 NC13714 TW, DG479, 31Sqd/B; 5/43 VT-APB; scr. Edited May 23, 2018 by Dave Fleming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 (edited) This DC-2K was published on web page devoted to John Medland by Mike Medland http://www.rafcommands.com/gallery/john-medland-service-in-raf-kohat/ it is said, that photo was taken in Kohat. Here http://www.rafcommands.com/galleries/SEAC/Mike-Medland/Douglas-DC-2-DG4xx-Kohat-Hangar are two more takes, on one the clear difference between yellow on roundel and bottom colour is obvious. Unfortunately all three shots do not allow to read complete serial... Regards J-W Edited May 24, 2018 by JWM mispelling corrections 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Fleming Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 A guess would be Azure or Sky Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I feel myself a bit guilt that here we are off topic - I will give this photo to WWII section, sorry for doubling a bit... So please more discussion on DC2 there Regards J-W 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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