Tbolt Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, JBr said: In the editorial of the January issue of the Eduard Info it was mentioned that there won't be any rivets on the puttied parts of the wings, but the rest of the airframe will be riveted. There will be panel lines though as their opinion is that the borders of the surface panels were distinguishable. And if you don't share their opinion, you are free to fill them in Maybe I wasn't clear, that's what I was referring to : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Pre-production build. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjuro Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Here? Eduard P-51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesthegringo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Perhaps a bit nit-picky, but the fit of the windshield part is not fantastic, the gap at the rear is unusual for Eduard's normally high standards. I also see that the wingtip trailing edge has gone, that's normally my trick! Still, looks good generally for me to my inexpert eye Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom175 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, lesthegringo said: Perhaps a bit nit-picky, but the fit of the windshield part is not fantastic, the gap at the rear is unusual for Eduard's normally high standards. I also see that the wingtip trailing edge has gone, that's normally my trick! Still, looks good generally for me to my inexpert eye Cheers Les What gap are you referring to sir? The one directly behind the canopy? that's for the center canopy roller. I'm sure they will tighten up anything small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocoolname Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Hoping for a Royal Class of this so I can build a Red Tail and an RAF bird. Also think instead of a beer glass/flask they should throw in a harmonica because, you know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesthegringo Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 1:26 PM, boom175 said: What gap are you referring to sir? The one directly behind the canopy? that's for the center canopy roller. I'm sure they will tighten up anything small. The front transparency has a little gap where it sits in the fuselage cutout for the part. It looks like they have moulded part of the fuselage with the windshield to make glueing easier, away from the transparent part, but that the cutout is slightly too long. Nothing major. Cheers Les Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boom175 Posted April 26, 2019 Share Posted April 26, 2019 6 hours ago, lesthegringo said: The front transparency has a little gap where it sits in the fuselage cutout for the part. It looks like they have moulded part of the fuselage with the windshield to make glueing easier, away from the transparent part, but that the cutout is slightly too long. Nothing major. Cheers Les OK I see what you are saying, I think they will tighten that up. If not a simple fix , but one that should be caught now and refined in the test shot stage. Good catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 Kit preview on iModeler https://imodeler.com/2019/04/eduard-1-48-north-american-p-51d-mustang-kit-preview-moson/ Looks like only 75 gal and 108 gal drop tanks in the standard kit. I hope we at least get 110 gal teardrop tanks in the Brassin range, but even better if the do them in the kit in a later boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homebee Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) Test shots review from KFS Miniatures Source: http://www.kfs-miniatures.com/1-48-north-american-p-51d-5-mustang/ V.P. Edited April 30, 2019 by Homebee 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbolt Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 It maybe just the angle of the photo but where the nose pinches in on the intake right at the front, it doesn't pinch in as much on the Eduard kit. It may look better once the intake lip is fitted ( sorry if this was mentioned in the article but my phone won't translate that page ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masinissa Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 9 hours ago, Tbolt said: It maybe just the angle of the photo but where the nose pinches in on the intake right at the front, it doesn't pinch in as much on the Eduard kit. It may look better once the intake lip is fitted ( sorry if this was mentioned in the article but my phone won't translate that page ). I compared the Hasegawa P-51D to the Tamiya. Hasegawa's nose is a little fuller in volume and doesn't have the same pinch it the lower nose. Here's a real Mustang to compare Meng Courtesy of Scalespot.com Airfix P-51D nose Hasegawa P-51D nose. From Hyperscale Built by Luis Antonio Reyes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABeck Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 This one causes some head scratching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas V. Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) On one hand surface detail is definitely superb, on the other does Eduard truely not have slide moulding technology that would enable them to tool one piece more complex shapes ( like upper cowling), two part flaps!? Secondly I'll be waiting for proper review before buying bulk, still remember two Gustav fiacsos and comparative pics do show major discrepancies between Tamiya and Eduard....will be interesting. Edited May 1, 2019 by Thomas V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boman Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Release in July 2019, can hardly wait 🤩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guillaume320 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 hours ago, ABeck said: This one causes some head scratching I don’t think we are necessarily looking at different nose length. Eduard has the upper part molded to the fuselage and Tamiya a separate piece. The photographer should move slightly to the left to assess the situation accurately! G 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXANTOMCAT Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 IMHO the Meng one was superb - got the 'fix one in the stash but not built it yet- the Eduard one will have to be going some to beat the Meng! TT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ka-Efka Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 5 hours ago, ABeck said: This one causes some head scratching Not really. It's a Photo not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) If eduard comes up with an 1/72 kit I hope they as a "first" dare to make it with the panellines on the wings filled and sanded as on the real thing. I am rather tired of filling and sanding P-51D wings. We have seen rivetted wings (Revell), raised panellined wings (old Airfix, Hasegawa, Heller, Matchbox), recessed panellines (new Airfix, Hasegawa, Academy, Italeri) and both rivetted and recessed panellines (Tamiya). Isn't it time for an smoth wing NA P-51D Mustang now? Cheers / André Edited May 2, 2019 by Andre B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Andre B said: Isn't it time for an smoth wing NA P-51D Mustang now Eduard wouldn't be able to sell it because of the "fatal flaw" of not having panel lines, and would have to retool the model with them. I guess it's better to have them and fill them than not having them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sturmovik said: Eduard wouldn't be able to sell it because of the "fatal flaw" of not having panel lines, and would have to retool the model with them. I guess it's better to have them and fill them than not having them at all. I don't agree with that. And I am talking about an future 1/72 kit (?). Not the coming 1/48 kit. So many of us knew these days that the wings where filled, sanded and painted to get an smoth surface. Look at the discussed Airfix ragwing Hurricane. Why demand an accurate wing in one case and not in another? Or what about the Tamiya (and Revell) Mustang wings with rivets? People buy them anyway. If one want a kit with an not wery accurate wing compared to the real thing that hade filled panellines why not get Tamiya or Airfix? As producer why not make a kit with both? One with smoth wings and one with all lines. It will not be that expensive i 1/72 scale. Even Airfix made Spitfire kits with two types of wings... Cheers / André Edited May 3, 2019 by Andre B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmovik Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 38 minutes ago, Andre B said: As producer why not make a kit with both? Because there would have to be two tooling machines for the wings. 38 minutes ago, Andre B said: Even Airfix made Spitfire kits with two types of wings... With panel lines, and not needing all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre B Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sturmovik said: Because there would have to be two tooling machines for the wings. With panel lines, and not needing all that much. Not for such small parts as an P-51D wing. All parts could be fitted on the same sprue in 1/72. And look at the size of eduard sprues and boxes. The sprues are two times bigger than the Airfix sprues and the boxes are three times bigger than an Airfix box. And take a look how many tools/sprues/parts eduard have made for making all parts for different Spitfire wings. An P-51D wing has fewer parts. If eduard dared to make one P-51D with accurate wings the critics probably soon would praise them for making an Mustang with wings as they looked during the war. And every builder would be able to build an accurate P-51D Mustang without filler and wetsanding... Edited May 3, 2019 by Andre B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorgio N Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 (edited) I would object that a kit with no panel lines would be accurate: the real machines had panel lines and rivets and these were (partially) filled at the painting stage but the structural features were still there. A relly accurate finish would be having panel lines and rivets on the kit and let the modeller reproduce the finish as done by NAA when painting the Mustang wings.. 😄 Then there's the matter of what lines were actually visible on the wing of Mustangs in WW2. There are pictures with no visible panel lines but there are others where some panel lines are visible, maybe because the finish was not properly maintained in operation or maybe because puttied panel lines in some areas could show through a worn silver paint. And finally we have to consider what happened on the many Mustangs used after the war... some retained the original NAA finish, others clearly didn't. What's the modeller supposed to do if he/she wants to reproduce one of those that didn't ? If the kit is moulded with no panel lines, the modeller is forced to scribe all of these, a job that IMHO is more demanding compared to filling existing recessed lines. The same applies to modellers who would feel that a wing with no panel lines is "incomplete", even if these were filled at the factory. In the end a manufacturer has to compromise and adding panel lines is IMHO the best compromise as allows modellers who want a "filled" wing to do it with less work than would be required to rescribe a featureless wing. Manufacturers also have to consider the commercial side of the decision, and consider how many of their potential customers would appreciate one option and how many would prefer the other. I believe that in the end most modellers would prefer to have the panel lines in place Edited May 3, 2019 by Giorgio N 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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