CliffB Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 So let's move forward through time a little and into the 30s. Perhaps I'm being stupid here and if so feel free to wade in with information but reconnaissance seemed to have fallen from fashion in favour of fighter and bomber types. Are we really into the 40s before the dedicated PR types reappear? Hi Col, I don't think reconnaissance ever went out of fashion, it's just that the aircraft used in the 20's (in particular), were seen as being multi-purpose. As an example, the Chaco War Potez 25 that I entered into the Close Air Support GB (legitimately I should add!), would have spent as much of its time on recon missions as it did on bombing ones. In fact, it was also sometimes used as a resupply transport, once famously dropping a huge block of ice onto (?!) beseiged ground troops who were at risk of dying of thirst - true story. In the mid 30s we did get things like the Henschel Hs 126 appearing, which were clearly purpose designed for recon, so perhaps this is the birthday of the specialist type? I'm really not trying to be anal about this, but it's legitimate to think about whether this GB would be for stuff that was merely used for recon (an almost infinite list) or stuff that was designed to be used for recon? Most GBs seem to go through a similar soul searching phase! Another curved ball: warships used as pickets to protect the Falklands Task Force. Eyes and ears of the fleet? Good for the GB? My own entry would probably be the civil registered Lockheed Electra Junior used to take clandestine aerial photographs over Europe in the lead-up to WWII. It had some mods (including cameras) fitted so should hopefully qualify, whatever Cliff 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 I'll think picket ships must be considered as scouts on equal terms as the AEW aircrafts. Same must be said on pesky Russian spy trawlers during the cold war 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper_city Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Me too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Hi Col, I don't think reconnaissance ever went out of fashion, it's just that the aircraft used in the 20's (in particular), were seen as being multi-purpose. As an example, the Chaco War Potez 25 that I entered into the Close Air Support GB (legitimately I should add!), would have spent as much of its time on recon missions as it did on bombing ones. In fact, it was also sometimes used as a resupply transport, once famously dropping a huge block of ice onto (?!) beseiged ground troops who were at risk of dying of thirst - true story. In the mid 30s we did get things like the Henschel Hs 126 appearing, which were clearly purpose designed for recon, so perhaps this is the birthday of the specialist type? I'm really not trying to be anal about this, but it's legitimate to think about whether this GB would be for stuff that was merely used for recon (an almost infinite list) or stuff that was designed to be used for recon? Most GBs seem to go through a similar soul searching phase! Another curved ball: warships used as pickets to protect the Falklands Task Force. Eyes and ears of the fleet? Good for the GB? My own entry would probably be the civil registered Lockheed Electra Junior used to take clandestine aerial photographs over Europe in the lead-up to WWII. It had some mods (including cameras) fitted so should hopefully qualify, whatever Cliff Excellent examples of types that has filled in a gap in my knowledge of this subject Cliff Your mention of the Hs 126 reminded me that Army Cooperation and Artillery Spotting are also forms of reconnaissance that I'd completely forgotten about. I'll think picket ships must be considered as scouts on equal terms as the AEW aircrafts. Same must be said on pesky Russian spy trawlers during the cold war Wholeheartedly agree with you there Henrik. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawty82 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Something like a Nimrod be allowed? If so I'm in! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Something like a Nimrod be allowed? If so I'm in! The R.1 most certainly as it was a dedicated reconnaissance platform and the MR.1 & 2 were Maritime Reconnaissance. The AEW.3 is also eligible so that's pretty much Nimrods covered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prenton Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 If the Ju 86 P or R (high altitude craft designed specifically for recon) are allowed, then I'd definitely be in! (I have the RS Models kits of both somewhere in the stash, and am just looking for an excuse to make one (or both) of them...) Philip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 25, 2014 Author Share Posted December 25, 2014 Guys and girls we are halfway there to get into the November GB poll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 This is certainly proving a popular idea Henrik so I'm sure we will have good numbers well before then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jb65rams Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Would a confederate cavalry figure be acceptable? Cavalry were meant to be the eyes of the army. My figure painting skils are not great, not sure how they will cope with a horse, but would be up for the challenge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo the Magnificent Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Can I join in please? Would an ordinary strike aircraft be eligible, provided it was fitted with a recce pod and used on an Army Co-operation squadron? I am thinking about II(AC) Jaguars and Phantoms or IV(AC) Harriers. Edited December 26, 2014 by Enzo Matrix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 26, 2014 Author Share Posted December 26, 2014 Of course you can Please be our guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 A few off the top of my head... Y-8EW An-12PPS An-26REP An-71 Beriev A-50 Beriev Be-12 KJ-200 / KJ-2000 KJ-1 / Tu-4 M-55 Mig-25R Mil-8PP Tu-16RM-2 Tu-126 Tu-142 Yak-28 Yak-33 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuts Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Hi guys,I'd like to join in on this one too Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave the Doctor Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 Count me in with probably a Myasishchev M-55 Mystic. Dave 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 A fine selection of great ideas coming through again. Would a confederate cavalry figure be acceptable? Cavalry were meant to be the eyes of the army.My figure painting skils are not great, not sure how they will cope with a horse, but would be up for the challenge. Nice thinking JB. The great thing about this GB is the diversity of potential subjects as you're showing with this one. Can I join in please?Would an ordinary strike aircraft be eligible, provided it was fitted with a recce pod and used on an Army Co-operation squadron? I am thinking about II(AC) Jaguars and Phantoms or IV(AC) Harriers. So long as the subject is modelled in recce configuration then I can see no reason why it doesn't deserve to be included. A few off the top of my head...Y-8EWAn-12PPSAn-26REPAn-71Beriev A-50Beriev Be-12KJ-200 / KJ-2000KJ-1 / Tu-4M-55Mig-25RMil-8PPTu-16RM-2Tu-126Tu-142Yak-28Yak-33 A good list of potential Soviet/Russian subjects there Radleigh. You got a particular favourite amongst them? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 I do have an Airfix Canberra PR.9 in the stash and always fancied building an EC/RC-135 if such a kit exists. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 27, 2014 Author Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Uuuh Mish there is quite some recon variants of C/KC-135 family available. At least i 1/72nd scale. https://www.scalemates.com/products/product.php?id=120705 hgbn Host Col. Co-host thueser Black Knight Lexx77 CliffB Jabba Radleigh Dermo245 AndrewE Rob G DAG058 snapper_city Shawty82 Prenton Enzo Matrix Jb65rams smuts Dave the Doctor Mish SlepperService Old Man mark73 vpplt68 whitestar12chris badger Shermaniac wellzy Arniec Edited February 26, 2015 by hgbn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperService Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 An excellent idea. Just need to decide what to do and work out how to finish a GB in a timely manner....Count me in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_c67 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Would Sci-Fi count? Something like these chaps maybe... http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/The_Horus_Heresy/Legiones_Astartes/Space_Marine_Legion_Army_List/Legion_Troops/Legion_Reconnaisance_Squad/LEGION_MKIV_RECON_SQUAD.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 There is a Sci-Fi GB coming up and to be honest it would fit much better in there. No offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Happy to join in this one. Have a variety of subjects in mind, ranging from a Great War scratch-build two-seater to one of the later U.S. O-class machines.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Welcome aboard sounds interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark73 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Count me know in, as aircrew on one of these aircraft how could I pass this one up....great idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted January 6, 2015 Author Share Posted January 6, 2015 Welcome aboard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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