hgbn Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) thueser has suggested this group build. But can't host. I think his idea is brilliant and it would such a shame not to carry the torch further Everything that is used for recon purposes Sea air or land. The scope is almost endless and can be anything from a scout on the ground to the most advanced spy aircraft Anyone? hgbn Host Col. Co-host thueser Black Knight Lexx77 CliffB Jabba Radleigh Dermo245 AndrewE Rob G DAG058 snapper_city Shawty82 Prenton Enzo Matrix Jb65rams smuts Dave the Doctor Mish SleeperService Old Man mark73 Edited September 29, 2015 by Mish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yes please. Plenty options already in the stash and projects planned with them so sign me up. Can happily co-mod as well if you need. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thueser Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 I'm here in too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 ach, shure, count me in too please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Interesting subject, nothing in the stash for this one should it go ahead. Would AEW aircraft be allowed? How about RC/EC 135 and similar EW aircraft, or balloons from WW1 and before? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Yes they would be allowed. I would say even FAC would be allowed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnonymousDFB1 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Sounds good to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex77 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Count me in! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Been wanting to kit-bash the Airfix Spifire XIX and ICM IX into a PR XI for a while so this seems as good a reason as any. There's also a Tamiya 72nd scale Mosquito PR.IV and Testors 48th scale SR-71in the stash so a few potential subjects. Or I could justify buying the Condor MiG-25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 I have a AMT EC-135V that's screaming to be build. and a couple of White scout cars as well just to name few likely candidates in my stash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Count me in too please, but I'm wondering when pupose built recon aircraft (sorry to focus on flying things), came into existence? The very first military aircraft were used as unarmed scouts of course, and two-seater 'general fighting biplanes' provided the recon function well into the thirties. Would the GB be open to these generalists as well as to the more specialist PR models that we immediately think of? What are your thoughts on this please? Cheers Cliff 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 I would say go for it. What do you say Col.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabba Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Add my name to the list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radleigh Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 And me, some nice Russian bits I could build.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Count me in too please, but I'm wondering when pupose built recon aircraft (sorry to focus on flying things), came into existence? The very first military aircraft were used as unarmed scouts of course, and two-seater 'general fighting biplanes' provided the recon function well into the thirties. Would the GB be open to these generalists as well as to the more specialist PR models that we immediately think of? What are your thoughts on this please? Cheers Cliff The very first military aeroplanes were used for military observation; spotting troop movements and directing artillery shell fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffB Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 The very first military aeroplanes were used for military observation; spotting troop movements and directing artillery shell fall. My point exactly BK - that's what I meant by 'scouts'. The question I was asking was whether they (and later general purpose aircraft types used for recon), should qualify for the 'eyes and ears' GB'? Or is it better if the permissible subjects must be more specifically developed for the task e.g. PR variants etc? Sorry if we are talking at cross purposes! Cliff Edit: my own view is that a requirement for some degree of specialism of purpose should be required (even though that rules out most of what I could otherwise build ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermo245 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Count me in! Would a Tomcat with a Tarps pod qualify? If not, have some others that probably count... Dermot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Cliff the GB is named eyes and ears. If early scouts wouldn't be allowed who should? After all every evolution has to start somewhere and ignoring the very first spark of life would be in my world a big mistake. So yes on my part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thueser Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Cliff the GB is named eyes and ears. If early scouts wouldn't be allowed who should? After all every evolution has to start somewhere and ignoring the very first spark of life would be in my world a big mistake. So yes on my part What i had in mind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewE Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Please add me to the list. Not sure what with, could be an M8 armoured car or maybe a WWII recon plane. Andrew 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob G Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 As long as this is going to be held in ooooh... I dunno.... 2025, I'm in! Should have some free time by then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hgbn Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) Rob it all depends on how long it takes to get signatures enough to trigger the yearly GB poll hgbn Host Col. Co-host thueser Black Knight Lexx77 CliffB Jabba Radleigh Dermo245 AndrewE Rob G DAG058 snapper_city Shawty82 Prenton Enzo Matrix Jb65rams smuts Dave the Doctor Mish SleeperService Edited December 27, 2014 by hgbn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I would say go for it. What do you say Col.? I say yes. This was the first purpose of those earliest flying machines and I think it would be folly to exclude them. I'm sure someone with more knowledge of First World War aviation can give an accurate cut-off point for when the specialist fighters, bombers etc. appeared but until such time as an authoritative voice can weigh in perhaps the simplest definition is to view any of those early era machines which went up unarmed as 'scouts'. The difficulty comes when we consider the fitting of guns as defensive armament on reconnaissance types from around 1916 onwards but from what I can recall of writing a dissertation on the subject of WWI aviation at university cameras arrived around the same time so there we may have a point in our favour. So let's move forward through time a little and into the 30s. Perhaps I'm being stupid here and if so feel free to wade in with information but reconnaissance seemed to have fallen from fashion in favour of fighter and bomber types. Are we really into the 40s before the dedicated PR types reappear? Let's jump forward again into the 'jet-age' and Cold War. Off the top of my head I can think of types such as the RB-45 & 47, EB-66, Meteor PR.9, Hunter FR.10 & MiG-25R that are clearly eligible but what of types such as the F-14, Sea Harrier or Jaguar that had a secondary reconnaissance capacity? Perhaps we need to insist that such machines are modelled in a relevant configuration. So TARPS pod on the Tomcat and the centreline pod on the Jag. The SHAR, however, is a more contentious issue for me personally. The FRS.1 designation, just as GR.1/3/5/7/9, takes that R from an inbuilt Reconnaissance role with camera to suit but are not really what I consider to be a specifically reconn type in the same way a U2 or SR-71 clearly is. Sorry this long ramble only covers aircraft but I'm sure there's similar conundrums in AFV and maritime. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie_c67 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I thought the GR1/4A was the recon version of the IDS pattern tonka? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG058 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 I'm in. With the AFV club 1/35 Scimitar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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