Wez Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Still not convinced it's a Whitley, I don't think the fuselage is deep or slab sided enough for that. If I'm wrong I was right to sell my Frog Whitley, if I'm right I have no regrets for selling my Frog Whitley. Less than 24 hours before we find out for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old thumper Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I don't expect to see a new Battle, I am currently building two of the recently re-issued ones and was surprised to see how fresh they look considering the age of the moulds. If there had been a demand for Battles these moulds would surely be worn out after all this time. The re-issue itself was only on the shelves for a short time which indicates it wasn't selling. I know some people complain about the shape of the old Battle kit but I don't think this is a problem to the average model maker. I think the Whitley is a solid choice for a kit for the simple reason that there is no other major manufacturer doing one. I just hope people don't start pulling it apart when it's released. So keep your verniers and micrometers away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev67 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Apart from the 1/72 Fly kit and the re-issued old Frog kit by some Russian company http://www.emodels.co.uk/fly-1-72-armstrong-whitworth-whitley-mk-iii-british-medium-bomber-72005-plastic-model-kit.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr22 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 It's bound to be a Whitley seeing as how I finally cracked & bought a Fly one a fortnight ago.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJP Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) I think the Whitley is a solid choice for a kit for the simple reason that there is no other major manufacturer doing one. I just hope people don't start pulling it apart when it's released. So keep your verniers and micrometers away. Ah but they will. At least some will, and I for one will be glad of it. The subset of people in this hobby who will take a ruler to a kit (or can take a ruler to a kit!) seems to be relatively small though there will be no end of criticism from those who don't. The pattern repeats. First comes the kit announcement, followed by complaints: it's the wrong subject, the wrong mark, the wrong scale. The dimensions are off, the detail is too deep or not deep enough and sometimes, both at once. Why isn't there any resin aftermarket for it yet? Then someone will see a sprue shot or even a CAD drawing. More analysis, more complaints, ever more shrill. No actual plastic has been seen yet but that is never an impediment When that's all blown through, the kit will actually be released. Eventually the few remaining (those who haven't been run off by all the blather) will both get their hands on it and fewer still will get out a ruler. That's about the point where I start to pay attention. Once I know what to expect then I am in a position to know what I need to do. Until then, it's all hot air. Just for the record, I like the idea of a new Whitley too but only from the now dated perspective of someone who wants to build the kit! Edited December 21, 2014 by RJP 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob P Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Could this be the Handley Page aircraft hinted at in the "Blue prints"? If so, no Victor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshirt Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The more I stare at that photo, the more I see a Ju88. The canopy looks Ju88, the nose looks Ju88 (machine gun poking out forcing the lower paper fold) and the tail wrapping looks too tall for a Whitley, but about right for a Ju88. the "witty" comment and wrapping is to throw us all off...and so far it's working exceptionally well. A Ju88 -- especially if it were the A-1 -- would fully round our their BoB Luftwaffe heavies. The only remaining aircraft are the Ju87 and Hurricane Mk I (metal wing). The latter is an easy extension to their existing kit, so we just need to see a hint that includes the Ju87. Or did I miss that one? Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fids Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 No, it's a Hampden. Thats what I thought, perhaps a Guy Gibson battle of Britain one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 The more I stare at that photo, the more I see a Ju88. The canopy looks Ju88, the nose looks Ju88 (machine gun poking out forcing the lower paper fold) and the tail wrapping looks too tall for a Whitley, but about right for a Ju88. the "witty" comment and wrapping is to throw us all off...and so far it's working exceptionally well. A Ju88 -- especially if it were the A-1 -- would fully round our their BoB Luftwaffe heavies. The only remaining aircraft are the Ju87 and Hurricane Mk I (metal wing). The latter is an easy extension to their existing kit, so we just need to see a hint that includes the Ju87. Or did I miss that one? Tim I also wondered about the Ju-88 - as you rightly say, it fits in with the BoB theme. I wouldn't be surprised if all tha stuff going on around the tail is the proverbial crimson kipper. Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The wooksta V2.0 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 hi Cost effectively for airfix Most probably a blenheim V More return for the investment, after the Mk I , & Mk IV . Cheers Jerry I can guarantee it won't be a Blenheim V, because unless they retool it completely (with a new fuselage cutout for a larger turret, new nose and glazing sprues, and revised nacelles that look more like Beaufighter ones), you can't get it out of the current new tool. I've an MPM one I bought cheap at telford with the express intention of converting the Airfix kit with the relevant parts. Whitley? Left field but would be welcome. Although a Fairey Hendon has similar dimensions..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well as this thread is about speculating and forecasting what Airfix will give us in the next year I predict they’ll give us new tools of the following: In 1/72nd Hawker Hart family Hurricane I (metal wing) Corsair F-4U4 Spitfire XIV Beaufighter Mosquito (two stage engine versions) Ju-88A.1/5 Hunter F.4 and T.7 Hawker Seahawk Jet Provost 3/4 Vampire FB.5/9 F-84F Thunderstreak In 1/48th Hunter Swift Hawker Hart Family Spitfire I/II Spitfire XIV I’m not convinced about the predicted Whitley and Stuka but I’m willing to be wrong. Wez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Boak Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I entirely agree that it's amazing how the complainers start in before the kit appears! If they don't care how accurate a new kit why bother with it at all? Why not just make the old kits and stop whinging? There's no law that models have to end up looking anything like, well, anything, but some of us do want to respect the original's designers and builders. An aircraft's shape and size are not random, but are there for a purpose. Take your censorship elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Procopius Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 and a better Pup (in both Airfix scales) would keep my (currently empty) wallet begging for mercy. Have you seen the HR Models kit in 1/72? I've built their Nieuport 10 and it wasn't too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) The re-issue itself was only on the shelves for a short time which indicates it wasn't selling. Er, what? No, that means the production run sold out. Edited December 21, 2014 by Work In Progress 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denford Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well as this thread is about speculating and forecasting what Airfix will give us in the next year I predict they’ll give us new tools of the following: In 1/72nd Hawker Hart family Hurricane I (metal wing) Corsair F-4U4 Spitfire XIV Beaufighter Mosquito (two stage engine versions) Ju-88A.1/5 Hunter F.4 and T.7 Hawker Seahawk Jet Provost 3/4 Vampire FB.5/9 F-84F Thunderstreak In 1/48th Hunter Swift Hawker Hart Family Spitfire I/II Spitfire XIV I’m not convinced about the predicted Whitley and Stuka but I’m willing to be wrong. Wez I'll go along with all of that except that the list is a shade too long. In 1/72 cut out Hart, Corsair, Sea Hawk, F-84 In 1/48 cut out Spitfire 1/11, Hart and Swift. However the list lacks anything with a wingspan much over 50 ft, so add Wellington. In not too many hours we will know everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Work In Progress Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yes, that's actually at least two years' worth of new tool releases in that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 This is just a continuation of the Advent Calendar thread, with nothing to add other than more than wild speculation and "I wish they'd do a...". I'm closing this and you can start a proper thread if it turns out to be what's under the wrapping paper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazdot Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeback52 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 And, yes, we do need a new decent OOB 1/48 Hurricane with no silly errors at a decent price. Could not agree more. It is a great pity that Airfix has (thus far) not seen fit to lavish the attention on Hawkers finest that it has on the Supermarine Sports Car!! . Let me see now, 1/48 rag wing Hurricanes (up scaled from the lovely 1/72 kits), a tin winged MkI/1a, then of course a Mk 11A/B/C/D, Mk IV...................! Allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewerjerry Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hi Avro manchester, as I have finally got all my bits to do a conversion Cheers Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeronut Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Hi Avro manchester, as I have finally got all my bits to do a conversion Cheers Jerry Airfix will definately annonunce a series of Whiltleys on account as I've recently acquired a Fly Mk I to turn into an early para dropper and a Frog Mk IV to turn into a glider tug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Have you seen the HR Models kit in 1/72? I've built their Nieuport 10 and it wasn't too bad. Yes, but as it has nothing whatever to do with what Airfix will release in 2015 I didn't mention it. OTOH for many years the Airfix Pup was best of type, and seemed to be a steady seller (to me and my WW1 modelling friends anyway) - something that fits with the Hornby method of replacing old standby kits AND doing it in line with anniversaries. Shane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 Well as this thread is about speculating and forecasting what Airfix will give us in the next year I predict they’ll give us new tools of the following: In 1/72nd Hawker Hart family Hurricane I (metal wing) Corsair F-4U4 Spitfire XIV Beaufighter Mosquito (two stage engine versions) Ju-88A.1/5 Hunter F.4 and T.7 Hawker Seahawk Jet Provost 3/4 Vampire FB.5/9 F-84F Thunderstreak In 1/48th Hunter Swift Hawker Hart Family Spitfire I/II Spitfire XIV I’m not convinced about the predicted Whitley and Stuka but I’m willing to be wrong. Wez I'll go along with all of that except that the list is a shade too long. In 1/72 cut out Hart, Corsair, Sea Hawk, F-84 In 1/48 cut out Spitfire 1/11, Hart and Swift. However the list lacks anything with a wingspan much over 50 ft, so add Wellington. In not too many hours we will know everything. It was a wish list and I quite forgot about the He-111, Defiant and Junglie Queenie already announced. Oh well perm any further 8 from that list. Wez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent K Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 So..... Shackleton Confirmed (see Airfix Facebook Post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 22, 2014 Author Share Posted December 22, 2014 So..... Shackleton Confirmed (see Airfix Facebook Post) It doesn't confirm a Shack for next year, it just confirms they've been looking at the Shack, the kit may not appear for another couple of years yet so don't hold your breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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