RAAF Spitfire VC Trop - Which Spinner/Prop ?

[Tiger331]

Forgive me if this has been asked before but I am trying to ascertain which spinner/propeller combo I should apply to a late-war RAAF Spitfire Vc in overall natural metal with white tail and leading edge ID markings. Can I use kit parts from the (new mould) Airfix Spitfire V or do I need an AM set…?…I've just purchased the Quickboost deHavilland prop set but I'm not sure if this is applicable (conflicting references don't help !).

Thanks in advance

Mark

[woody37]

Troy will be your man!

[tonyot]

I`d say that most RAAF Spit Vc`s had a shorter more pointed spinner with wider paddle style Hamilton Standard props,

Cheers

Tony

[Graham Boak]

They had the De Havilland Hydromatic spinner/props, which caused considerable problems. The book Darwin Spitfires gives details.

[tonyot]

They had the De Havilland Hydromatic spinner/props, which caused considerable problems. The book Darwin Spitfires gives details.

Of course they were DH Hydromatic`s,.....I was going to type DH then remembered the style of hub was the later style, and that DH were licence built Hamilton Standards so typed the latter instead,...doh!

Freightdog do a resin prop for this kit which might be worth a look see in case it is the right type.

Tony

[Troy Smith]

Hi Mark

as in this kind of prop/spinner combo?

from http://www.adf-messageboard.com.au/invboard/index.php?showtopic=2546

the new Airfx kit VB has a rotol prop, and a DH prop, BUT the DH Prop has the wrong spinner.

I'd look at using, if you have one, the DH Spinner from an Airfix Hurricane [it has two props and they are in many spares bins] and the Spitfire prop, that's without actually test fitting it.

BUT, the new Airfix kit is a VB, so you need a C type wing to build one. Depending on you level of Spitfire obsession you may find it cheaper to get a VC kit, though the only VC kit I know of in 1/48th has some issues, the Special Hobby/Eduard/Italeri kit.

Or, there is/was an Allycat conversion, or use a modified C wing from an ICM IX or a leftover Eduard C wing, but you need to modify the oil cooler for that.

BTW the wrong Spitfire spinner can be used to replace the bloody awful attempt at a Rotol Bullet prop in the Italeri mk II Hurricane. It won't fix the oversize nose but I have digressed enough.

HTH

PS Tony is right, Freightdog do a replacement spinner

http://www.freightdogmodels.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=27_30&products_id=978&osCsid=38c2927d8b94deeaf82d57d8761ca669

and they also do the Alleycat C wing set.

http://www.freightdogmodels.co.uk/index.php?cPath=27_30&osCsid=38c2927d8b94deeaf82d57d8761ca669

[Graham Boak]

The Hurricane DH spinner is smaller in base area and hence more pointed than the Spitfire kind. This matched the difference in nose areas of the two designs. When it comes to Spitfires, I must admit to being far from sure that there is any difference between the early war DH variable-pitch spinner, the constant speed spinner, and the Hydromatic. Whenever I find a photo that makes me think there is, I find another that suggests there wasn't. Some views do suggest that the propeller has a wider chord near the root than the earlier DH prop, more like the Rotol, but then again others don't... It would be no surprise at all to learn that there were a number of different blades used during the war - there certainly was on the Rotol.

[Troy Smith]

The Hurricane DH spinner is smaller in base area and hence more pointed than the Spitfire kind. This matched the difference in nose areas of the two designs. When it comes to Spitfires, I must admit to being far from sure that there is any difference between the early war DH variable-pitch spinner, the constant speed spinner, and the Hydromatic. Whenever I find a photo that makes me think there is, I find another that suggests there wasn't. Some views do suggest that the propeller has a wider chord near the root than the earlier DH prop, more like the Rotol, but then again others don't... It would be no surprise at all to learn that there were a number of different blades used during the war - there certainly was on the Rotol.

Graham is correct about their being a Hurricane DH Spinner, this is as stated, smaller and sharper, and is the DH Spinner type found in the 1/48th Hasegawa kit.

BUT the DH Spinner is the 1/48th Airfix Hurricane is the Spitfire type fitted to some early Hurricanes, And it was slightly too large for the Hurricane, as was the Spitfire Rotol type commonly used in the BoB.

Number 4 on the diagram below.

also see here http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234956047-romanian-hurricane-underside-colours/

PS Graham's preferred scale is 1/72nd, so not knowing which spinners comes with which 1/48th Hurricane kit is understandable.

I have assumed Mark meant 1/48th as I know he does do 1/48 , and I don't know of a 1/72 new tool Airfix Spitfire V....

[Tiger331]

Hi Mark

as in this kind of prop/spinner combo?

from http://www.adf-messageboard.com.au/invboard/index.php?showtopic=2546

the new Airfx kit VB has a rotol prop, and a DH prop, BUT the DH Prop has the wrong spinner.

I'd look at using, if you have one, the DH Spinner from an Airfix Hurricane [it has two props and they are in many spares bins] and the Spitfire prop, that's without actually test fitting it.

BUT, the new Airfix kit is a VB, so you need a C type wing to build one. Depending on you level of Spitfire obsession you may find it cheaper to get a VC kit, though the only VC kit I know of in 1/48th has some issues, the Special Hobby/Eduard/Italeri kit.

Or, there is/was an Allycat conversion, or use a modified C wing from an ICM IX or a leftover Eduard C wing, but you need to modify the oil cooler for that.

BTW the wrong Spitfire spinner can be used to replace the bloody awful attempt at a Rotol Bullet prop in the Italeri mk II Hurricane. It won't fix the oversize nose but I have digressed enough.

HTH

PS Tony is right, Freightdog do a replacement spinner

http://www.freightdogmodels.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=27_30&products_id=978&osCsid=38c2927d8b94deeaf82d57d8761ca669

and they also do the Alleycat C wing set.

http://www.freightdogmodels.co.uk/index.php?cPath=27_30&osCsid=38c2927d8b94deeaf82d57d8761ca669

Troy,

Yes.....this set of photos show a similar a/c to the one I want to model. I have noted the requirement for a new wing so have the Alley Cat conversion as well as a new set of Eduard Brassin exhaust pipes for this project.....I will opt for the Freightdog spinner set in lieu of the Quickboost set I just purchased which will, no doubt, come in handy for another project. Thanks, gents for all your assistance on this...much appreciated.

Mark