woody37 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 P38 car filler is much better, I've started to use this as it doesn't shrink and you can sand it in 10 minutes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 P38 car filler is much better, I've started to use this as it doesn't shrink and you can sand it in 10 minutes! I agree but it's very smelly. Lady Skodadriver rarely complains about anything modelling related but I'm only allowed to use P38 when she's out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A6-EHJ Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm another for p38 but once again. I only use it when wife and kids are out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 Thank you all for the advice about P38, however there is one, significant, problem. I live in Moscow, Russia. This means that there is no guarantee that I will be able to find any of the wonderful supplies like Milliput, Klear, Squadron Green Putty etc., and that includes P38. However, that does not mean that these do not exist here. Therefore I will try to look for this P38 and see how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 I have decided what aircraft I will be building. D-ABBG, an Airberlin 737-86J, serial number 32918. It is currently in storage and has been re-registered as SU-TMG, ready to be delivered to a new Egyptian airline, FlyEgypt, also known as T1 Airlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 I painted the engines and main gear bay yesterday. Sort of improvised with the engines as the instructions did not give painting information of some areas. They will probably not be seen, but it is better for me to know that there is some paint in there. I also prepared the wings for glueing. You may notice that there is some paint on the wings, I noticed during dry-fitting that a part of the MGB is moulded with the top parts of the wings. This is barely visible when the gear is installed, but still. Here are some photos. Please remember that on the photographs each part is about five times bigger than the real thing, so they look a lot neater in real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Looking good so far. Are you planning on modifying the shape of the intakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 No, I think that for my first build that is too complicated. I will, however, modify the winglets as that is a lot easier. Also a question: My plan for the build is to attach the wings to the fuselage and paint that and the engines separately, then attach engines, then decals, then horizontal stabilizers and finally gear. Do you think this will work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 No, I think that for my first build that is too complicated. I will, however, modify the winglets as that is a lot easier. Also a question: My plan for the build is to attach the wings to the fuselage and paint that and the engines separately, then attach engines, then decals, then horizontal stabilizers and finally gear. Do you think this will work? FWIW that's the way I'd do it. Some modellers prefer to build and paint a series of sub-assemblies but personally I'm in the "stick and mask" camp. I find it easier to get a good finish that way rather than try to touch up damaged paintwork. With the 738 you'll probably have to do a little filling and touching up around the engine pylons (particularly ahead of the wing) but it shouldn't be anything major. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 OK, thank you for the advice once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted December 15, 2014 Share Posted December 15, 2014 (edited) Good work so far, I've fancied getting this kit so am interested in how it goes together. No, I think that for my first build that is too complicated. I will, however, modify the winglets as that is a lot easier. Also a question: My plan for the build is to attach the wings to the fuselage and paint that and the engines separately, then attach engines, then decals, then horizontal stabilizers and finally gear. Do you think this will work? Not a bad order to do things, If the horizontal stabilizers are a good fit and dont require filling then its sensible enough. I would leave the engines off until after decalling if that is possible as I am a clumsy oaf and would only knock them off anyway - saves wasting glue! Keep up the good work Bob Edited December 15, 2014 by moaning dolphin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share Posted December 15, 2014 Thanks, will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 I have painted the landing gear except for the wheels and the engines are now ready for the white and red to be sprayed. I have decided that I will build D-ABBG as it looks here: It is a good thing that I made this decision before painting the wheels as the kit instruction tell me to paint the nose wheel hubs red, not silver. I will thing of something smart to do with the decals to show the jagged line on the nose, probably the radome was replaced and the line did not match up. If I find any differences between the painting instructions and this image I will, of course, try to reflect the image rather than following the instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 It's not uncommon to see airliners wearing radomes which don't match the rest of their paint. It's just proof that we modellers aren't the only ones who don't always get the masking on straight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) It's not uncommon to see airliners wearing radomes which don't match the rest of their paint. It's just proof that we modellers aren't the only ones who don't always get the masking on straight Have you heard of the Fokker 28 that had a replacement radome? The livery was Canadian Airlines: and some genius painted the radome upside-down, with white on the bottom and blue on the top. I don't have a photo of the result but you can probably imagine how ridiculous it looked. Edited December 17, 2014 by POTKC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 I puttied over the windows and some parts where the fuselage did not align properly, and am currently sanding all the extra away. I wrote a song about it (sing to the tune of "Clean up, clean up everybody, everywhere"): Sanding dust Sanding dust It is going Everywhere On the floor and On the table On my pants and In my hair. Another thing: I tried to test fit my completed wing assembly (-engines) to the fuselage, and I found that the gear bay does not fit though the hole. Does anyone know how to fix that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skodadriver Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 .... Another thing: I tried to test fit my completed wing assembly (-engines) to the fuselage, and I found that the gear bay does not fit though the hole. Does anyone know how to fix that? http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/75911-correcting-the-revell-737-800/ Scroll down to the end of the first post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelter Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Good luck with your build - "only the Brave" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 Thank you! I have sanded away all the extra putty and, what do you think? It shrank and there are holes in some of the windows. I am preparing the fuselage (and myself) for another round of filling and sanding but construction is going slowly thanks to the Christmas holidays and spending time with family. You'd think there would be MORE modeling time, not less, during a vacation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 It has been a long time, but not much has been done. I have glued the wings to the fuselage. While dryfitting everything looked great, but after gluing I discovered terrible fit issues and two giant seams. The wing root attaches (almost) perfectly to the fuselage, but there is terrible misalignment at the sides where the wings attach. I pondered over how to fix this, tried so meagre sanding, and then got fed up with it for two weeks. Anyway, I came back to it today, stuck on the winglets and primed the whole assembly. I decided to leave the misalignments as they are as this is my first (proper) model and I do not want to destroy it even more while trying to fix it. Sorry, I forgot to take photos, but will soon. For now, just imagine an engine- and tailplane-less, matt grey, 737-800 with disgusting seams at the wing root. The seam issues did slightly diminish under primer, so that's a plus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Try slivers of plastic card. Measure the length of the gap, cut your card that long, and then glue it into the gap with liquid glue. Once it's dry you can sand off the excess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moaning dolphin Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Good to see this thread ressurected, keep at it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 Try slivers of plastic card. Measure the length of the gap, cut your card that long, and then glue it into the gap with liquid glue. Once it's dry you can sand off the excess. The problem is not a gap, but rather a misalignment. There is no-where to put plastic card into. I will try to take photos tomorrow, but right now I have to go to bed as it is terribly late and I am very tired. But thank you for the advice, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share Posted February 12, 2015 OK, here are the photos of the last three days' progress. Tuesday I primed the fuselage and wings, and I must say that for my first try I was expecting worse. I then realized that I had forgotten to glue on the tiny aerials, vents and APU exhaust that Revell for some reason did not mould as part of the fuselage. Here is how it looked when I left it: Yes, I use Revell paint boxes (full of paint pots with paint in them) as stands. Also, here is a photo of the seam I wrote about: Wednesday First, I masked the engines off for priming/painting. I am actually pretty proud of the system I thought of, even though it is probably un-original. There is a piece of paper wrapped into a tube inside the exhaust section - to mask off all the brush painted bits - which is held in place by a piece of 10mm Tamiya tape going over the top of the pylon. The tube tapers to a flat surface, which I (or in this particular case, my friend who is a lot more experienced with spray can/airbrush painting and was helping me) can hold onto while the whole thing is sprayed: You can also see the horizontal stabilizers in the photo above. The intake was masked by sticking a piece of scotch tape straight onto the front of the engine and then cutting around it: Thursday (Today) I gave the fuselage and wings one last coat of primer, and also primed the h-stabs and engines. My masking system worked perfectly, which I am very happy about. I forgot to mention, but the primer I am using is Tamiya rattle can stuff, and I also masked the gear bays with pieces of sponge, which is a completely un-original idea stolen from countless WIPs I have read here on Britmodeller. The sponge also doubles as a sacrifice to the Modeling Gods to help with the painting ahead. Then I proceeded to mask off the wings in preparation for painting the fuselage and winglets white. This was done with a combination of Tamiya 10mm tape and some fantastic masking polystyrene stuff which is basically super-thin plastic bag material which can be cut, folded, or conformed to surfaces any way you want. And, finally, the the airbrushing! Yay! This was the first time I ever used an airbrush (except for the practice run with black paint on paper a few weeks ago), and it could have been worse! The only problem I had was a horrible abundance of dust, and I think what has happened is I have gotten an 'orange peel' effect (is that what you call a really rough finish?), not because of painting problems but because of all the dust. My airbrush-expert friend told me that I can fix that with a dry sponge, some 1200 grit sandpaper and then another coat of paint. So, guess what I am doing tomorrow? Also, Murphy's Law happened - the bottom of the plane, which no-one will see, is the only part which is nice, smooth and glossy. I wonder if that will change after the red is painted, I hope not! Anyway, here is the model as I left it today. I also painted the engines white, but forgot to take a photo of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessica Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Aha! That "step" in the wing root is supposed to be there, although it's more pronounced on the model than in real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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